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What you're describing is a straightforward violation of civil rights laws (assuming you're talking about the United States). Like it or not, "little Johnny" is

What you're describing is a straightforward violation of civil rights laws (assuming you're talking about the United States). Like it or not, "little Johnny" is just as protected from discrimination as these "more diverse groups". But I'll give you credit for your candor. Few DEI advocates are as honest as you about the movement's discriminatory nature.

daveguy 5mo ago
Little Johnny isn't a protected class and never will be. Little Johnny has had 250+ years of preferential treatment behind him. Boohoo Little Johnny.
- Manuel_D 5mo ago
  You seem to be misinformed about what protected class means: Race, gender, religion (including absence of religion), are all protected classes. It is irrelevant which race, gender, etc. is being favored or disfavored. The use of race as a factor in employment, in any way, is prohibited. It is not legal to discriminate against men any more than it is legal to discriminate against women. It is not legal to discriminate against whites and Asians any more than it is legal to discriminate against Black and Latin people. The idea that civil rights laws oly prohibit discrimination against some races and some genders while permitting discrimination against others is a very common piece of misinformation espoused by proponents of DEI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group
  - daveguy 5mo ago
    But also, preferential treatment for underserved communities is legal and does not mean anyone is being discriminated against. I.e., "reverse discrimination" is bullshit. Sorry.
    - Manuel_D 5mo ago
      Repeating this doesn't make it true. Use of protected class as a factor in employment is illegal, regardless of which race or gender is being favored or disfavored. You're right, "reverse discrimination" is bullshit: it's just discrimination, regardless of who is being discriminated against. This was argued all the way up to the Supreme Court: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_v._Ohio_Department_of_Youth_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_v._Ohio_Department_of_You... Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 applies to both the majority and the minority equally. And the Supreme Court's unanimous opinion was written by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson no less! You're just wrong on the facts here.
- boxed 5mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v... In fact, asians were as a "race" treated very badly historically with camps for japanese-americans during WW2 and before that quite a lot of discrimination. That DEI kept up that discrimination even at Harvard and lost under the guise of DEI shows that the DEI mission is not only illegal but stupid. Note also that while DEI proponents scream that the US is racist, somehow people who arrive from Nigeria and are more black than most US blacks and know the language less, and have no connections, and start out with even less wealth do quite well on the whole. DEI isn't just bad, stupid, and illegal. It's also falsified as a scientific idea.

daveguy 5mo ago

Little Johnny isn't a protected class and never will be. Little Johnny has had 250+ years of preferential treatment behind him. Boohoo Little Johnny.

Manuel_D 5mo ago
You seem to be misinformed about what protected class means: Race, gender, religion (including absence of religion), are all protected classes. It is irrelevant which race, gender, etc. is being favored or disfavored. The use of race as a factor in employment, in any way, is prohibited. It is not legal to discriminate against men any more than it is legal to discriminate against women. It is not legal to discriminate against whites and Asians any more than it is legal to discriminate against Black and Latin people. The idea that civil rights laws oly prohibit discrimination against some races and some genders while permitting discrimination against others is a very common piece of misinformation espoused by proponents of DEI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group
- daveguy 5mo ago
  But also, preferential treatment for underserved communities is legal and does not mean anyone is being discriminated against. I.e., "reverse discrimination" is bullshit. Sorry.
  - Manuel_D 5mo ago
    Repeating this doesn't make it true. Use of protected class as a factor in employment is illegal, regardless of which race or gender is being favored or disfavored. You're right, "reverse discrimination" is bullshit: it's just discrimination, regardless of who is being discriminated against. This was argued all the way up to the Supreme Court: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_v._Ohio_Department_of_Youth_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_v._Ohio_Department_of_You... Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 applies to both the majority and the minority equally. And the Supreme Court's unanimous opinion was written by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson no less! You're just wrong on the facts here.
boxed 5mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v... In fact, asians were as a "race" treated very badly historically with camps for japanese-americans during WW2 and before that quite a lot of discrimination. That DEI kept up that discrimination even at Harvard and lost under the guise of DEI shows that the DEI mission is not only illegal but stupid. Note also that while DEI proponents scream that the US is racist, somehow people who arrive from Nigeria and are more black than most US blacks and know the language less, and have no connections, and start out with even less wealth do quite well on the whole. DEI isn't just bad, stupid, and illegal. It's also falsified as a scientific idea.