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China has a population of 1.4B, US is 349M. 0-8 Beijing time is their off-peak? How is that funny, that's literally how timezones work?
by dubcanada 4mo ago
China has a population of 1.4B, US is 349M. 0-8 Beijing time is their off-peak? How is that funny, that's literally how timezones work?
- bel8 4mo agoIt's funny, in a good way, because their off-peak times match perfectly the werstern peak demand.
- ericmay 4mo agoCan folks in China run US-based models? Seems like they should take advantage of this overlap in peak timing.
- linzhangrun 4mo agoYes, use VPN; they are the main clients
- ericmay 4mo agoWhy do they use a VPN?
- esseph 4mo agoChinese state firewall?
- weird-eye-issue 4mo agoWell not just that, OpenAI explicitly blocks them
- ericmay 4mo agoBlocks Chinese users or blocks VPNs? Are they the only one?
- weird-eye-issue 4mo agohttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/supported-countries https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/supported-countries You can check for yourself here to see that China and Hong Kong are conveniently missing. We do see blocking from Anthropic and Gemini as well in some regions Also even though Vietnam and the Philippines are technically supported we do see blocking from some IP addresses in those regions too
- ericmay 4mo agoI see - I was just curious. Does China permit citizens from accessing American AI models if they were permitted by the American companies?
- weird-eye-issue 4mo agoWell I can tell you lots of them access them no matter what, our service provides a proxy for them if a request gets blocked and lots of AI providers do the same since they access the APIs through a central server without passing along the actual users IP address
- ericmay 4mo agoUnderstood, I was just curious if the CCP blocks Chinese citizens even if they were permitted by the US. It looks quite a bit like the general economic policy of China - block foreign companies and artificially drive pricing down for your products globally. I have yet to see evidence to the contrary but was just wondering
- linzhangrun 4mo agoAbsolutely not, OpenAI is not an organization they can "control."
- culi 4mo agoOpenAI and Anthropic restricted API access for developers based in mainland China, citing geopolitical competition and national security risks.