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it really is too bad. All of the major tech companies' competitors are junk. Google Drive is the least bad of the bunch (out of, say, OneDrive, iCloud, and form

it really is too bad. All of the major tech companies' competitors are junk. Google Drive is the least bad of the bunch (out of, say, OneDrive, iCloud, and formerly Amazon Drive), but it's still not great to deal with. DropBox really does do a great job

amluto 4mo ago
Google Drive has gotten inexplicably cheap for Workspace users, too.
- dawnerd 4mo ago
  They've raised prices a lot over the last few years while reducing the storage you get.
  - amluto 4mo ago
    The pricing is weird. If you want to buy à la carte storage, it appears to be $40/TB/month for business and $30/TB/month for enterprise: https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/storage/buy-more-google-workspace-storage-for-your-organization https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/storage/buy-mor... This is more than S3 charges, but S3 will nickel and dime you aggressively for using that storage depending on your use case. But $22/month buys an entire Google Workspace seat, which includes 5TB, for an effective $5.50/TB/month, which is quite a good deal. On the other hand, it’s rather lacking in flexibility. I find this all somewhat confusing. At least one of these offerings does not reflect the underlying cost of the product.
- svara 4mo ago
  The desktop client used to be just terrible. Has that changed? The Dropbox client does have its issues but it's really amazing at... Syncing files. I use it pretty creatively with large numbers of files and large volumes and it just works reliably.
  - bentt 4mo ago
    I find Google Drive desktop to be just fine on Windows. Gave up a long time Dropbox sub for it and I have been happy. Dropbox just got too bloaty and unfocused for me.
sssilver 4mo ago
What's the issue with iCloud?
- browningstreet 4mo ago
  Mounting Dropbox on Linux machines is really easy. Google Drive has terrible support for binary files and namespaces. For business purposes I didn't want to use iCloud. But it seems like it's iCloud & Dropbox then.
- watermelon0 4mo ago
  It doesn't have a great cross platform support (no Linux client, and there are many complaints for the Windows client). Personally, I dislike that you cannot restore an older version of a file on laptop/phone, and must instead use their web app, for which you need to disable ADP, which defeats its purpose.
  - msh 4mo ago
    I know it’s not a official client but rclone have great iCloud support (but only if you don’t enable advanced data protection).
  - seanhunter 4mo ago
    While there isn't a proper Linux client, if you find yourself on a Linux box and need to sync to or from iCloud, rclone[1] works great. Just putting this out there in the hope that it might help someone. It's also (ironically given TFA) what I used to sync all my files off dropbox when I cancelled my subscription because of their misuse of root to re-add their thing to special permissions on macOs after I had removed it.[2] [1] https://rclone.org/ https://rclone.org/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 not trying to reopen a flame war, but for me personally, that was one of those things a company doesn't get to do to me twice. As soon as it happened, I copied my files off and cancelled. In fact I'm there somewhere in the comments on that article saying I was going to be cancelling and I immediately did.
    - 4mo ago
jsmith99 4mo ago
OneDrive used to be rubbish but nowadays it's reliable. We use it at work and I don't feel any pressure to move to Dropbox. It's also much cheaper.
- fireflash38 4mo ago
  OneDrive is awful. Why are my files I created on my local device not on my device
  - trollbridge 4mo ago
    Click “keep files on my device”. I had to uncheck this box since I let my OneDrive (business) account bloat up to 2TB.
    - smilespray 4mo ago
      This should be the default behavior. Microsoft deliberately chose not to because keeping your files in the cloud is a barrier to easy switching.
      - pseudosavant 4mo ago
        Probably because the 1TB of storage you get with Microsoft 365 (or whatever it is called now) for <$100/year is more space than most computers come with. I’ve had OneDrive for a very long time, and there was a couple of years where they didn’t have the files on demand feature as they rewrote the OneDrive client. It was a major regression for me. If you don’t like that behavior, you can always just check the box to sync everything. I do that on my machine that has 2TB of storage.
    - fireflash38 4mo ago
      I download an attachment from a colleague. I edit it and save it. I try to send the updated file back via outlook... And it says the file is not available. This is one of the most basic operations that people do! Why does it not work? Why would I need to go back in and tell it to keep it locally for when it was local in the first place!? It's absolutely inane shit like this that drives me up a wall with Microsoft. Do these people use their own products?
idatum 4mo ago
But you can just use any cloud blob storage provider (including the big ones) along with the rclone utility. rclone supports many. I even use rclone to sync photos to OneDrive I can then share with family/friends.
prepend 4mo ago
I find icloud best as long as everything is apple.

amluto 4mo ago

Google Drive has gotten inexplicably cheap for Workspace users, too.

dawnerd 4mo ago
They've raised prices a lot over the last few years while reducing the storage you get.
- amluto 4mo ago
  The pricing is weird. If you want to buy à la carte storage, it appears to be $40/TB/month for business and $30/TB/month for enterprise: https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/storage/buy-more-google-workspace-storage-for-your-organization https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/storage/buy-mor... This is more than S3 charges, but S3 will nickel and dime you aggressively for using that storage depending on your use case. But $22/month buys an entire Google Workspace seat, which includes 5TB, for an effective $5.50/TB/month, which is quite a good deal. On the other hand, it’s rather lacking in flexibility. I find this all somewhat confusing. At least one of these offerings does not reflect the underlying cost of the product.
svara 4mo ago
The desktop client used to be just terrible. Has that changed? The Dropbox client does have its issues but it's really amazing at... Syncing files. I use it pretty creatively with large numbers of files and large volumes and it just works reliably.
- bentt 4mo ago
  I find Google Drive desktop to be just fine on Windows. Gave up a long time Dropbox sub for it and I have been happy. Dropbox just got too bloaty and unfocused for me.

sssilver 4mo ago

What's the issue with iCloud?

browningstreet 4mo ago
Mounting Dropbox on Linux machines is really easy. Google Drive has terrible support for binary files and namespaces. For business purposes I didn't want to use iCloud. But it seems like it's iCloud & Dropbox then.
watermelon0 4mo ago
It doesn't have a great cross platform support (no Linux client, and there are many complaints for the Windows client). Personally, I dislike that you cannot restore an older version of a file on laptop/phone, and must instead use their web app, for which you need to disable ADP, which defeats its purpose.
- msh 4mo ago
  I know it’s not a official client but rclone have great iCloud support (but only if you don’t enable advanced data protection).
- seanhunter 4mo ago
  While there isn't a proper Linux client, if you find yourself on a Linux box and need to sync to or from iCloud, rclone[1] works great. Just putting this out there in the hope that it might help someone. It's also (ironically given TFA) what I used to sync all my files off dropbox when I cancelled my subscription because of their misuse of root to re-add their thing to special permissions on macOs after I had removed it.[2] [1] https://rclone.org/ https://rclone.org/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12463338 not trying to reopen a flame war, but for me personally, that was one of those things a company doesn't get to do to me twice. As soon as it happened, I copied my files off and cancelled. In fact I'm there somewhere in the comments on that article saying I was going to be cancelling and I immediately did.
  - 4mo ago

jsmith99 4mo ago

OneDrive used to be rubbish but nowadays it's reliable. We use it at work and I don't feel any pressure to move to Dropbox. It's also much cheaper.

fireflash38 4mo ago
OneDrive is awful. Why are my files I created on my local device not on my device
- trollbridge 4mo ago
  Click “keep files on my device”. I had to uncheck this box since I let my OneDrive (business) account bloat up to 2TB.
  - smilespray 4mo ago
    This should be the default behavior. Microsoft deliberately chose not to because keeping your files in the cloud is a barrier to easy switching.
    - pseudosavant 4mo ago
      Probably because the 1TB of storage you get with Microsoft 365 (or whatever it is called now) for <$100/year is more space than most computers come with. I’ve had OneDrive for a very long time, and there was a couple of years where they didn’t have the files on demand feature as they rewrote the OneDrive client. It was a major regression for me. If you don’t like that behavior, you can always just check the box to sync everything. I do that on my machine that has 2TB of storage.
  - fireflash38 4mo ago
    I download an attachment from a colleague. I edit it and save it. I try to send the updated file back via outlook... And it says the file is not available. This is one of the most basic operations that people do! Why does it not work? Why would I need to go back in and tell it to keep it locally for when it was local in the first place!? It's absolutely inane shit like this that drives me up a wall with Microsoft. Do these people use their own products?

idatum 4mo ago

But you can just use any cloud blob storage provider (including the big ones) along with the rclone utility. rclone supports many. I even use rclone to sync photos to OneDrive I can then share with family/friends.

prepend 4mo ago

I find icloud best as long as everything is apple.