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For the uninitiated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Edit: Read the comment below, it's information I sho
by jedberg 5mo ago
For the uninitiated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
Edit: Read the comment below, it's information I should have included in the first place. It's important to note that the comment was helpful at the time, and only became a meme later.
- sillysaurusx 5mo ago> Most people I know e-mail files to themselves It would be nice if that still worked. My resume exists in an iCloud drive, and I spent ten minutes on my phone trying to figure out how to attach it to a gmail message before giving up. "Copying" a file isn't even a well-defined operation anymore. (Or at least "pasting" doesn't always paste it.)
- genxy 5mo agoWhen you get stuck in a task like this, you realize that civilization will collapse with a whimper.
- dghlsakjg 5mo agoIt’s literally: click the paper clip logo in Gmail, tap files, pick your file. You can also just go into the files app, tap and hold, tap copy, go to Gmail tap and hold in your draft email, tap paste. There’s other paths that work too, like hitting the “send to” logo in files and then selecting Gmail. It’s really the exact same patterns I might use on a computer for the most part.
- deleted 5mo ago[deleted]
- matsemann 5mo agoGoogle will often convert it to a gdrive thing instead. So you're not sending the file, just a link to the file uploaded somewhere. I'm not sure what heuristic it uses, but sometimes when mailing photos like half of them are included in the mail and half automagically uploaded to gdrive instead.
- Semaphor 5mo agoThat sounds like some kind of weird google interface issue. Maybe try using IMAP or POP or whatever standard they still deign to support.
- TiredOfLife 5mo agoemail providers have limits for size. Modern files are huge.
- matsemann 5mo agoYeah but it's the silent conversion that irks me. My email is no longer self contained or archivable. When I find it again in the future, the files might be gone.
- Forgeties79 5mo agoAnything over 25mb goes out via gdrive if memory serves. That’s at least how it used to be.
- sillysaurusx 5mo agoThanks. I saw Photos and Drive, and apparently I missed "Attachments". Still, copy-pasting a file should work. It's unclear what "copy" even does.
- watermelon0 5mo agoSharing files between apps and file management in general on iOS is atrocious. I assumed this was a solved problem before Windows 98 (first desktop OS I used), but Apple cannot get this right 28 years later.
- amluto 5mo agoAt least there is a Files app these days, and many iOS apps interoperate a little bit with “Files”.
- mananaysiempre 5mo agoFunnily enough, Windows 98 is the first OS I remember with a sharing menu (“Send To”, which is memorable to me because the official Russian localization of it was suggestive of an obscenity). It seemed so pointless back then.
- cyanydeez 5mo agowith llms, you'd think we could use email as a passthrough proxy
- Ologn 5mo agoTangential to the theme, here is the HN post about the (AFAIK) first public success of deep learning techniques with SuperVision's AlexNet. You can read what their prognosis on the future success of deep learning was (hint: same prognosis as Dropbox) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4611830 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4611830
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- tptacek 5mo agoImportant to note here that Dan has been for years asking people to understand this comment in the context of the time and circumstances it was written. It's not a dunk on Dropbox. It's not the "less space than a Nomad" iPod comment on Slashdot. It was helpful and constructive criticism for Houston's YC application --- very specifically the application itself. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=infamous%20dropbox%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- matsemann 5mo agoThe "viral" point was a good one, and which they solved quite cleverly: as a student I got 10 GB for free, but additional 10 GB for each recruited person. Everyone at campus was on a recruiting spree for a while, to bulk up free storage. Of course, that doesn't make them money. But millions of users that then had all their files there and kept using it when no longer students (so paying), and recommended it to their places of work etc.
- dingaling 5mo ago> "less space than a Nomad" I actually thought that was a valid comment, more so than the Dropbox one. The contemporaneous iPod _was_ technically and acoustically inferior to the Nomad. The iPod "won" on account of fashion, style and marketing. Yes, the Slashdot comment was naive in underestimating or ignoring the power of Apple, but objectively it wasn't wrong. Apple released an inferior product and used out-of-band techniques to sell it.
- defen 5mo agoIf OP hadn't written his reply to 'dhouston 19 years ago I for sure would have flagged it as LLM-generated.
- jedberg 5mo agoWhich just goes to show how trigger happy people are about labeling things as LLM generated. People forget that LLMs were trained on writing on the internet, so it's going to sound how the average person writes!
- gigatree 5mo agoIMO the only solution is to just upvote things if they’re interesting or useful and downvote them if they’re not
- dogleash 5mo agoIt's already 19 years old? But it's still so fun seeing the same joke in every thread. Again and again. Any time someone can be even hypothetically accused of underestimating complexity of a sleek replacement for a hack system, or the topic can be tied to file sharing apps. It's a lot of fun to be reminded of that comment again and again from a clever bunch on a website with a good sense of humor.