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People should use something that keeps a local copy of their code and just copies it to Github and to other contributors with a sync process to push and pull ch

by onion2k 5mo ago

People should use something that keeps a local copy of their code and just copies it to Github and to other contributors with a sync process to push and pull changes. Some sort of 'distributed source control system' maybe. Then people would only need a 'hub' to connect to people, and it'd be easier to move somewhere else.

coldpie 5mo ago
This gets tiresome. Github is a lot more than a host for Git repositories. If you want to suggest that people use something else, you need to suggest a replacement that has the features people use Github for.
- ornornor 5mo ago
  Increasingly less and less so as they “upgrade” their offering and have more and more downtime.
- doctorpangloss 5mo ago
  yeah, #1, it is free private file storage, and #2, it's a download portal for free as in beer software replacing paid offerings. that's what it is for 99.99% of people. being a host for git repositories has never been its core competency. neither has its groupware offering. does it even serve OSS well? a very interesting criteria is, "Have mature or adopted end-user-facing OSS recently merged a large PR from an unallied contributor?" The answer is overwhelming no. This is why there is so much innovation in this space.
- danudey 5mo ago
  I think you missed the joke, which is that the parent poster you're replying to is suggesting a 'solution' to the problem which evolved in complexity until he was just describing Github again.
fusishch 5mo ago
What you just described is Fossil. It has an auto-sync feature that makes everything feel distributed. Just set up a Kubernetes deployment and you’re set. But as others mention, GitHub’s primary strength is collaboration. If you want decentralized, solve this by creating a decentralized collaboration tool on top of fossil and/or git. For example, how to do pull requests and code reviews?
- 40four 5mo ago
  Why they just described is Git :) pretty sure it was a joke
gopalv 5mo ago
> Some sort of 'distributed source control system' maybe The day it broke away and became centralized was when we had a PR + mandatory "Required actions" to merge to main.
- ruszki 5mo ago
  That’s only mandatory on the “hub”. I can do that locally anytime.
marricks 5mo ago
I like how tech seems to be all about stacking more and more turtles on top of each other: Gosh, it's hard figuring out what changes Lorne made if only we had a system to merge those changes. Enter git Gosh it's hard figuring out what packages Rachel had to make this work. Enter rubygems/pip/npm Gosh it's hard figuring out sync these changes across a network. Enter github Gosh it's hard figuring out how to get those packages working on my operating system. Enter docker Gosh centralizing our distributed version control software system onto one website is getting really unreliable. Enter fossil(?????) If we go any further having one computer per business with a sign up sheep is starting to sound pretty fucking attractive.
bergie 5mo ago
I'm looking at setting up rngit mirrors of all my repos on our boat NAS. Conceivably it also allows issue tracking and collaboration without centralized infra https://reticulum.network/manual/git.html#mirroring-repositories https://reticulum.network/manual/git.html#mirroring-reposito...

by onion2k 5mo ago

coldpie 5mo ago

This gets tiresome. Github is a lot more than a host for Git repositories. If you want to suggest that people use something else, you need to suggest a replacement that has the features people use Github for.

ornornor 5mo ago
Increasingly less and less so as they “upgrade” their offering and have more and more downtime.
doctorpangloss 5mo ago
yeah, #1, it is free private file storage, and #2, it's a download portal for free as in beer software replacing paid offerings. that's what it is for 99.99% of people. being a host for git repositories has never been its core competency. neither has its groupware offering. does it even serve OSS well? a very interesting criteria is, "Have mature or adopted end-user-facing OSS recently merged a large PR from an unallied contributor?" The answer is overwhelming no. This is why there is so much innovation in this space.
danudey 5mo ago
I think you missed the joke, which is that the parent poster you're replying to is suggesting a 'solution' to the problem which evolved in complexity until he was just describing Github again.

fusishch 5mo ago

What you just described is Fossil. It has an auto-sync feature that makes everything feel distributed. Just set up a Kubernetes deployment and you’re set. But as others mention, GitHub’s primary strength is collaboration. If you want decentralized, solve this by creating a decentralized collaboration tool on top of fossil and/or git. For example, how to do pull requests and code reviews?

40four 5mo ago
Why they just described is Git :) pretty sure it was a joke

gopalv 5mo ago

> Some sort of 'distributed source control system' maybe The day it broke away and became centralized was when we had a PR + mandatory "Required actions" to merge to main.

ruszki 5mo ago
That’s only mandatory on the “hub”. I can do that locally anytime.

marricks 5mo ago

I like how tech seems to be all about stacking more and more turtles on top of each other: Gosh, it's hard figuring out what changes Lorne made if only we had a system to merge those changes. Enter git Gosh it's hard figuring out what packages Rachel had to make this work. Enter rubygems/pip/npm Gosh it's hard figuring out sync these changes across a network. Enter github Gosh it's hard figuring out how to get those packages working on my operating system. Enter docker Gosh centralizing our distributed version control software system onto one website is getting really unreliable. Enter fossil(?????) If we go any further having one computer per business with a sign up sheep is starting to sound pretty fucking attractive.

bergie 5mo ago

I'm looking at setting up rngit mirrors of all my repos on our boat NAS. Conceivably it also allows issue tracking and collaboration without centralized infra https://reticulum.network/manual/git.html#mirroring-repositories https://reticulum.network/manual/git.html#mirroring-reposito...