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the completely avoidable ChatGPT app has 1B+ installs on Play Store alone. your reddit/bluesky/whatever circle of terminally online folx is not representative

the completely avoidable ChatGPT app has 1B+ installs on Play Store alone. your reddit/bluesky/whatever circle of terminally online folx is not representative of the general population. you're utterly detached from reality if you think that young adults in particular give a flying fuck about copyright, water, electricity, or artists and journalists losing their jobs.

hansmayer 5mo ago
Buddy you keep changing the parameters. Nobody talks about downloads, what are you talking about? What circle? Have you been following the graduation ceremonies in the US recently? Seen the AI boosters being booed off into oblivion ? Is that a "terminally online circle"? And if you think young people don't care about the envionment or ethics ... Maybe you should get out a bit more, it sounds like you are describing yourself, talking about terminally online folks...
- DaSHacka 5mo ago
  Not him but in my anecdotal experience I've noticed there's two distinct crowds of younger people: Those that embrace AI, and those that reject it. There are certainly more that "embrace" it. Maybe not as much as tech executives, but there's a huge amount of students using it for both homework and personal tasks. Conversely, the second crowd that believe AI is an ontological evil, are a much more vocal (and insular) minority. All in all though, I've found much more people just generally apathetic than anything. People are generally not positive about slop content, but aren't about to boo tech executives. The download count of the ChatGPT app per GP, and the insanely pervasive use inside education, somewhat back this up. It's a useful tool, thus people will use it.
  - hansmayer 5mo ago
    > the second crowd that believe AI is an ontological evil, are a much more vocal (and insular) minority. Wasn't that generally the case that people seeing through something as bad, regardless of whether it indeed was evil or something of lesser degree of badness, were usually the minority? Think we've got ample evidence in each century.
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
  yes, yes. graduate ceremony booing/cheering, the pope's highly invaluable opinion, all the things you saw on the front page here, all the comments you read on reddit, all irrefutable evidence that everyone hates AI. but meanwhile, new data centers are being frantically built to satisfy the demand.
  - hansmayer 5mo ago
    > new data centers are being frantically built to satisfy the demand. More like, frantically being announced and hyped up. How much new capacity has really come online recently? Show me the data, let's not bullshit here.

hansmayer 5mo ago

Buddy you keep changing the parameters. Nobody talks about downloads, what are you talking about? What circle? Have you been following the graduation ceremonies in the US recently? Seen the AI boosters being booed off into oblivion ? Is that a "terminally online circle"? And if you think young people don't care about the envionment or ethics ... Maybe you should get out a bit more, it sounds like you are describing yourself, talking about terminally online folks...

DaSHacka 5mo ago
Not him but in my anecdotal experience I've noticed there's two distinct crowds of younger people: Those that embrace AI, and those that reject it. There are certainly more that "embrace" it. Maybe not as much as tech executives, but there's a huge amount of students using it for both homework and personal tasks. Conversely, the second crowd that believe AI is an ontological evil, are a much more vocal (and insular) minority. All in all though, I've found much more people just generally apathetic than anything. People are generally not positive about slop content, but aren't about to boo tech executives. The download count of the ChatGPT app per GP, and the insanely pervasive use inside education, somewhat back this up. It's a useful tool, thus people will use it.
- hansmayer 5mo ago
  > the second crowd that believe AI is an ontological evil, are a much more vocal (and insular) minority. Wasn't that generally the case that people seeing through something as bad, regardless of whether it indeed was evil or something of lesser degree of badness, were usually the minority? Think we've got ample evidence in each century.
b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
yes, yes. graduate ceremony booing/cheering, the pope's highly invaluable opinion, all the things you saw on the front page here, all the comments you read on reddit, all irrefutable evidence that everyone hates AI. but meanwhile, new data centers are being frantically built to satisfy the demand.
- hansmayer 5mo ago
  > new data centers are being frantically built to satisfy the demand. More like, frantically being announced and hyped up. How much new capacity has really come online recently? Show me the data, let's not bullshit here.