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This is already happening. Most companies are using AI screeners for hiring now. They reject qualified people all the time.

by jedberg 5mo ago

zdw 5mo ago
Having been through an hiring cycle recently and prior to AI, the entire process has been pretty broken for a long time, but AI is definitely breaking it (and a whole lot of other things) in new and novel ways. The only reliable and high quality signal is a positive referral, but those are gated by your personal network, which may not be well developed.
- jedberg 5mo ago
  > The only reliable and high quality signal is a positive referral, but those are gated by your personal network That has pretty much always been the case, but what I've seen lately is even the referrals get put into the AI and then rejected before they're even looked at.
roopekangas 5mo ago
Time for hidden prompt injections in cv?
treis 5mo ago
Have you ever successfully appealed a failed HR screen? IME the reality of the modern world that there's little genuine appeal or reconsideration anymore. There is some sort of process but it's Byzantine and if we're talking the government, expensive. I guess everyone has had different lives but between humans and algorithms I take the algorithm every time.
- jedberg 5mo ago
  What I'm saying is that pre-AI, at least a human would skim it, and maybe see something that caught their eye that wasn't on the keywords list. Or if it were an internal referral that used to guarantee at least a call with a recruiter or HM.
  - dubcanada 5mo ago
    I don't think humans would skim stuff... Frankly I've always used a tool that preskimmed resumes. Even before AI. You can't expect a HR person getting 10k resumes a day to skim everyone or even look at 10% of them. Even 20+ years ago 80% of resumes went right into the trash bin before I even opening it.
  - treis 5mo ago
    I'd still trust ChatGPT over the median recruiter. And ChatGPT has the benefit of being able to do 10-100x as many screens as with a human. Even if it's grossly wrong half the time I'm ahead on volume.
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This is already happening. Most companies are using AI screeners for hiring now. They reject qualified people all the time.

by jedberg 5mo ago

This is already happening. Most companies are using AI screeners for hiring now. They reject qualified people all the time.

zdw 5mo ago

Having been through an hiring cycle recently and prior to AI, the entire process has been pretty broken for a long time, but AI is definitely breaking it (and a whole lot of other things) in new and novel ways. The only reliable and high quality signal is a positive referral, but those are gated by your personal network, which may not be well developed.

jedberg 5mo ago
> The only reliable and high quality signal is a positive referral, but those are gated by your personal network That has pretty much always been the case, but what I've seen lately is even the referrals get put into the AI and then rejected before they're even looked at.

roopekangas 5mo ago

Time for hidden prompt injections in cv?

treis 5mo ago

Have you ever successfully appealed a failed HR screen? IME the reality of the modern world that there's little genuine appeal or reconsideration anymore. There is some sort of process but it's Byzantine and if we're talking the government, expensive. I guess everyone has had different lives but between humans and algorithms I take the algorithm every time.

jedberg 5mo ago
What I'm saying is that pre-AI, at least a human would skim it, and maybe see something that caught their eye that wasn't on the keywords list. Or if it were an internal referral that used to guarantee at least a call with a recruiter or HM.
- dubcanada 5mo ago
  I don't think humans would skim stuff... Frankly I've always used a tool that preskimmed resumes. Even before AI. You can't expect a HR person getting 10k resumes a day to skim everyone or even look at 10% of them. Even 20+ years ago 80% of resumes went right into the trash bin before I even opening it.
- treis 5mo ago
  I'd still trust ChatGPT over the median recruiter. And ChatGPT has the benefit of being able to do 10-100x as many screens as with a human. Even if it's grossly wrong half the time I'm ahead on volume.
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