I don't see any value discussing which set of rules and outcomes is better because it's all nonsense. To be honest, I did have some very in depth conversations

I don't see any value discussing which set of rules and outcomes is better because it's all nonsense. To be honest, I did have some very in depth conversations with religious friends, and it was enlightening. I am convinced that for them, it has some benefits. But I know all this stuff is totally made up, so even if you can channel it to a good thing, I personally can never do it. And even though I won't say this to their face, part of me thinks, how can you believe this stuff.