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Yes it's a very dangerous concentration of power. But I don't believe strong words or proposing regulation by just another elite would change much. Please join

by alecco 5mo ago

Yes it's a very dangerous concentration of power. But I don't believe strong words or proposing regulation by just another elite would change much. Please join/help open source groups doing small + local or distributed models. There's a lot to do. Support truly open source companies. Let's walk the walk.

nickvec 5mo ago
Which open source companies would you recommend supporting?
- hideout_berlin 5mo ago
  debian
- jauntywundrkind 5mo ago
  Allen AI (ai2) is doing ridiculously good work, with such a clear focus on enabling others. https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social Their work on SERA (open training, open weights) is fantastic. 40 GPU days of time, training a competitive model, but also, a model built for further close fine-tuning. That refining and distilling models down, especially for complex code-bases, to make the model want to do the right thing, to know the process you use, has such promise. And it's done so in the open, with so much work to help you train or refine yourself, at such low costs! https://allenai.org/blog/open-coding-agents https://allenai.org/blog/open-coding-agents I'm so so so happy AI2 is helping bring up NSF OMAI compute center, some modern equipment they'll have access to. https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbihzxsei2a https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbihzxsei2a https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbii3d37t2u https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbii3d37t2u Incredible company. And such versatility! Earth sensing/geospatial models MolmoEarth, their own benchmarks for example for Instruction Following IFBench, MolmoAct robotics / VLA, and radical new MoE models EMO, https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3ml4pooclic23 https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3ml4pooclic23 https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mle56nehfz2w https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mle56nehfz2w
- alecco 5mo ago
  From top of my head: https://nousresearch.com/ https://nousresearch.com/ They do much more than Hermes https://pluralis.ai/ https://pluralis.ai/ has distributed models the network owns And many others filling very different niches. I would also count DeepSeek because they publish and share so much. Their new caching prices are very good for not that bad models. Last week I needed to generate content via API and I spent literally $3.40 where before I would've paid easily $200. But you have to connect directly as it seems OpenRouter messes up caching somehow.
ai_slop_hater 5mo ago
> There's a lot to do. How can I contribute?
- alecco 5mo ago
  Join some Discord servers of open source projects/startups. Hang out and make friends. Figure out where and how you can fit best.
  - ai_slop_hater 5mo ago
    > Hang out and make friends. Oh no
dogcomplex 5mo ago
This. AI can, should, and will erode all legacy companies into intelligent utilities - with an end state of nearly-free open source utilities. Anyone concerned with concentrations of power and abuse of AI should be focusing on getting open source work to keep pace with decentralizing that power into accessible free tools for the masses.
jpfed 5mo ago
I'm not even sure where to start, but I have to ask- are there any groups / projects that are trying to make and train an OSS model federated across members' machines?
- alecco 5mo ago
  Several. https://pluralis.ai/ https://pluralis.ai/ https://nousresearch.com/ https://nousresearch.com/ https://allenai.org/ https://allenai.org/ and a few more I can't remember right now. I'm personally on the other end: local small models working well for specific tasks (i.e. "agentic")

by alecco 5mo ago

nickvec 5mo ago

Which open source companies would you recommend supporting?

hideout_berlin 5mo ago
debian
jauntywundrkind 5mo ago
Allen AI (ai2) is doing ridiculously good work, with such a clear focus on enabling others. https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social Their work on SERA (open training, open weights) is fantastic. 40 GPU days of time, training a competitive model, but also, a model built for further close fine-tuning. That refining and distilling models down, especially for complex code-bases, to make the model want to do the right thing, to know the process you use, has such promise. And it's done so in the open, with so much work to help you train or refine yourself, at such low costs! https://allenai.org/blog/open-coding-agents https://allenai.org/blog/open-coding-agents I'm so so so happy AI2 is helping bring up NSF OMAI compute center, some modern equipment they'll have access to. https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbihzxsei2a https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbihzxsei2a https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbii3d37t2u https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mlbii3d37t2u Incredible company. And such versatility! Earth sensing/geospatial models MolmoEarth, their own benchmarks for example for Instruction Following IFBench, MolmoAct robotics / VLA, and radical new MoE models EMO, https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mm7udixycs2h https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3ml4pooclic23 https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3ml4pooclic23 https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mle56nehfz2w https://bsky.app/profile/ai2.bsky.social/post/3mle56nehfz2w
alecco 5mo ago
From top of my head: https://nousresearch.com/ https://nousresearch.com/ They do much more than Hermes https://pluralis.ai/ https://pluralis.ai/ has distributed models the network owns And many others filling very different niches. I would also count DeepSeek because they publish and share so much. Their new caching prices are very good for not that bad models. Last week I needed to generate content via API and I spent literally $3.40 where before I would've paid easily $200. But you have to connect directly as it seems OpenRouter messes up caching somehow.

ai_slop_hater 5mo ago

> There's a lot to do. How can I contribute?

alecco 5mo ago
Join some Discord servers of open source projects/startups. Hang out and make friends. Figure out where and how you can fit best.
- ai_slop_hater 5mo ago
  > Hang out and make friends. Oh no

dogcomplex 5mo ago

This. AI can, should, and will erode all legacy companies into intelligent utilities - with an end state of nearly-free open source utilities. Anyone concerned with concentrations of power and abuse of AI should be focusing on getting open source work to keep pace with decentralizing that power into accessible free tools for the masses.

jpfed 5mo ago

I'm not even sure where to start, but I have to ask- are there any groups / projects that are trying to make and train an OSS model federated across members' machines?

alecco 5mo ago
Several. https://pluralis.ai/ https://pluralis.ai/ https://nousresearch.com/ https://nousresearch.com/ https://allenai.org/ https://allenai.org/ and a few more I can't remember right now. I'm personally on the other end: local small models working well for specific tasks (i.e. "agentic")