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There’s a difference between “there exists people there who are poor” and the state and local governments are poor. https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/st

There’s a difference between “there exists people there who are poor” and the state and local governments are poor. https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-local-tax-collections-per-capita/ https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-local-tax-col... Louisiana is 32nd for tax revue per capita.

triceratops 5mo ago
Then why does the state look so poor? And why do you think their governments will spend money on helping people now?
- sarchertech 5mo ago
  It’s looks poor because there are some very poor people living there because they are the descendants of slaves and share croppers who are still suffering as a result of that. However if you have look at average incomes and state revenue which represents the resources available, which was the what I was responding to. Whether they chose to use those resources is a different question. Also even looking at something like average or median personal income, Louisiana ranks in or near the top 20 counties in the world. What you’re seeing is that America has a terrible safety net so the floor is much lower than most of Europe.
  - Danox 5mo ago
    From the panhandle of Florida all the way through Port Arthur in Texas that area is one of the poorest places in the United States. It’s not even close. And anyone that could get out they left a long time ago very happy my parents decided to leave that part of the world, the best thing that could’ve happened to the south is that everything from Virginia to South Carolina is gentrifying. The sad part is that a large part of the population don’t realize that the conservative upper end of the population is selling out the conservative lower end.
dahart 5mo ago
Louisiana has the highest poverty rate of all the states in the nation, according to the 2023 Census, at 18.9%. https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/acsbr-022.pdf https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/acsbr... Louisiana ranks 43rd in per capita personal income. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_adjusted_per_capita_personal_income_(2022) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_adjuste... Please don’t post the same link & comment 5 times.
- sarchertech 5mo ago
  I’ll post the same link as many times as I please if it’s in response to the same comment from 5 people. Please don’t make demands of other users. Income inequality isn’t the same thing as government resources available per person. 43rd in per capita personal income still puts in in the top 20 countries globally.
  - dahart 5mo ago
    > Income inequality isn’t the same things as government resources available per person. Correct. You clearly understand that your citing of averages papers over the poverty rate and conflates the gains of the rich with the plight of the poor. Louisiana is literally ranked the #1 poorest state in the nation today counting the percent of people who don’t have enough to pay rent or eat properly. “Government resources available per person” is cold comfort to the over one in four children in Louisiana who are living in poverty. How are those government resources actually being used, and if it ranks so well, why isn’t that reflected in LA’s health and education? “Government resources available per person” includes tax credits for oil and gas…
    - sarchertech 5mo ago
      You’re arguing with a different person than you think you are. I’m arguing about available resources, not willingness to use them. If you want to define poor purely by percentage of people who are living below the poverty line instead of median income, average income, gdp per capita or tax revenue, go ahead. But in the context of whether the government has the resources to do something, that’s not a good metric. And beyond this scope if you look at average or median personal income, the average or median person in Louisiana is not poor, which is the metric I would use if I was going to call a group of people poor.

triceratops 5mo ago

Then why does the state look so poor? And why do you think their governments will spend money on helping people now?

sarchertech 5mo ago
It’s looks poor because there are some very poor people living there because they are the descendants of slaves and share croppers who are still suffering as a result of that. However if you have look at average incomes and state revenue which represents the resources available, which was the what I was responding to. Whether they chose to use those resources is a different question. Also even looking at something like average or median personal income, Louisiana ranks in or near the top 20 counties in the world. What you’re seeing is that America has a terrible safety net so the floor is much lower than most of Europe.
- Danox 5mo ago
  From the panhandle of Florida all the way through Port Arthur in Texas that area is one of the poorest places in the United States. It’s not even close. And anyone that could get out they left a long time ago very happy my parents decided to leave that part of the world, the best thing that could’ve happened to the south is that everything from Virginia to South Carolina is gentrifying. The sad part is that a large part of the population don’t realize that the conservative upper end of the population is selling out the conservative lower end.

dahart 5mo ago

Louisiana has the highest poverty rate of all the states in the nation, according to the 2023 Census, at 18.9%. https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/acsbr-022.pdf https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/acsbr... Louisiana ranks 43rd in per capita personal income. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_adjusted_per_capita_personal_income_(2022) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_adjuste... Please don’t post the same link & comment 5 times.

sarchertech 5mo ago
I’ll post the same link as many times as I please if it’s in response to the same comment from 5 people. Please don’t make demands of other users. Income inequality isn’t the same thing as government resources available per person. 43rd in per capita personal income still puts in in the top 20 countries globally.
- dahart 5mo ago
  > Income inequality isn’t the same things as government resources available per person. Correct. You clearly understand that your citing of averages papers over the poverty rate and conflates the gains of the rich with the plight of the poor. Louisiana is literally ranked the #1 poorest state in the nation today counting the percent of people who don’t have enough to pay rent or eat properly. “Government resources available per person” is cold comfort to the over one in four children in Louisiana who are living in poverty. How are those government resources actually being used, and if it ranks so well, why isn’t that reflected in LA’s health and education? “Government resources available per person” includes tax credits for oil and gas…
  - sarchertech 5mo ago
    You’re arguing with a different person than you think you are. I’m arguing about available resources, not willingness to use them. If you want to define poor purely by percentage of people who are living below the poverty line instead of median income, average income, gdp per capita or tax revenue, go ahead. But in the context of whether the government has the resources to do something, that’s not a good metric. And beyond this scope if you look at average or median personal income, the average or median person in Louisiana is not poor, which is the metric I would use if I was going to call a group of people poor.