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> Do you disagree with the Pope? Yes I do. I don't think you a prayer can literally transform wine into blood. How about you?
by Ardren 4mo ago
> Do you disagree with the Pope?
Yes I do. I don't think you a prayer can literally transform wine into blood. How about you?
- krzyk 4mo agoYou do know it is not literal transformation?
- Ardren 4mo agoIt's actually is a literal transformation (and only a Catholic thing) https://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html#The%20sacraments%20of%20Christian%20initiation https://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/arch... 283 > Transubstantiation means the change of the whole substance of bread into the substance of the Body of Christ and of the whole substance of wine into the substance of his Blood. This change is brought about in the eucharistic prayer through the efficacy of the word of Christ and by the action of the Holy Spirit. However, the outward characteristics of bread and wine, that is the “eucharistic species”, remain unaltered.
- geerlingguy 4mo agoThere's an important distinction between the 'substance' and the 'accidents' (outward characteristics), that matters a lot in Catholic theology. Some deeper discussion around Aquinas' philosophy on the difference: https://iep.utm.edu/thomas-aquinas-metaphysics/#H4 https://iep.utm.edu/thomas-aquinas-metaphysics/#H4 But I'd say any Catholic who believes in the Eucharist would admit, yeah, it's a bit of an odd thing, especially by today's standards, to consume the blood of a sacrificed animal.
- criddell 4mo agoI was talking about his take on AI. He didn't bring up the blood thing at all.