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Both things can be true at the same time, so shutting down the critique (possibly because it is critiquing something you like??) just because another critique c
by dylan604 5mo ago
Both things can be true at the same time, so shutting down the critique (possibly because it is critiquing something you like??) just because another critique can be made is not a good counter argument
- watwut 5mo agoIn that case, the Pope does not believe "wine turns to blood if you say things to it." That claims is, very simply, a lie.
- Ardren 5mo agoIt's actually litterally true. https://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html#The%20sacraments%20of%20Christian%20initiation https://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/arch... 283 > Transubstantiation means the change of the whole substance of bread into the substance of the Body of Christ and of the whole substance of wine into the substance of his Blood. This change is brought about in the eucharistic prayer through the efficacy of the word of Christ and by the action of the Holy Spirit. However, the outward characteristics of bread and wine, that is the “eucharistic species”, remain unaltered. Edit: It's a catholic thing, and it's very silly (other denominations say its symbolic)
- watwut 5mo agoAnd that quote is not the same thing as was written originally. Explicitely hedges and ends with clear "wont have that taste, wont get you drunk". The simplification in the original in fact imploed that.
- dylan604 5mo agoThis is not the only part of Catholicism that is not written originally, but even "originally written" is difficult.