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> the Rust vs. Go consideration boils down almost completely to "do you want a managed runtime or not". That's not really something I care much about. My beef
by kelnos 5mo ago
> the Rust vs. Go consideration boils down almost completely to "do you want a managed runtime or not".
That's not really something I care much about. My beefs with Go are 90% about the syntax of the language itself, and it's weak (compared to Rust) type system.
When it comes to a managed runtime, for most tasks, I generally don't care if my language has one or not. For some tasks I do, but there are not many of those tasks, and so this question is mostly irrelevant to me when deciding Go vs. Rust.
I don't really get where you're seeing that the predominant Go vs. Rust debate is about the runtime. IME it's the subjective stuff about the languages themselves, and their ecosystems and communities.
> The Rust vs. Go slapfight is a weird and cringe backwater of our field.
::shrug:: I dunno, I mostly stay out of it and just use Rust, and I'm happy and avoid the drama. I've written a little Go here and there, didn't really like it, and moved on.
- tptacek 5mo agoThat's totally fine. I don't get why people moralize this stuff. Both of these languages are rounding errors compared to the dynamic languages.
- kelnos 5mo agoI think people do this for every language. It becomes a part of their identity, and then they have to defend it. I used to do that too, long ago, but I don't have the time or energy for it for the most part, and find it boring, so that $LANG-user-as-identity bit of my has fallen by the wayside. I don't think it's about adoption levels; sure Go and Rust are tiny compared to JS/python/etc. It's emotional, not about who has the most users or who can even plausibly get there.
- pas 5mo agoBecause it triggers the "feeling of other" when someone is so close yet so far ideologically. I'm sure you know this joke about dogmas :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26624442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26624442 In some sense this is the same as the NIMBY/YIMBY question. There are perfectly valid reasons to want to live like Spacers do on Aurora, yet many prefer the caves.