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man i keep thinking. why cant india get into stuff like this. Do their own manhattan project to build factories and tech for this and immigrate experts with hig

man i keep thinking. why cant india get into stuff like this. Do their own manhattan project to build factories and tech for this and immigrate experts with high salaries.

Synthetic7346 5mo ago
India doesn't have the coordination China does
blackoil 5mo ago
During Mao/cultural revolution for all the bad, two good things were great focus on K-12 education and reducing religious fundamentalism (curbing religious powerhouses). Both of them are now biting India, alongwith standard problems of corruption that plague most poor democracies.
- rescbr 5mo ago
  Both issues also plague Brazil. At least we have the CIA to blame on religious fundamentalism.
HDBaseT 5mo ago
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raincom 5mo ago
Thanks to Indian constitution and other laws, incompetence is heavily praised and promoted. Go to any public high/elementary schools, go to any private colleges, it is rampant. It has taken three generations to produce these bad results. Of course, I am not saying that students are dumb. It is just that many smart kids in villages if given an opportunity, will leave India in a heart beat because they don't see a bright future for their future kids.
- spaceman_2020 5mo ago
  Indian bureaucracy thinks extremely short term. The state prioritizes extracting revenue over all else. So many baffling short-term decisions over everything from corporate tax breaks to a incentives for global events like Formula 1.l You really can’t expect the same bureaucratic setup to think in terms of the decade+ it would take to be competent at something like chips
  - raincom 5mo ago
    Indian bureaucracy exists to enrich themselves for their next ten generations. The bureaucracy itself promotes, recruits incompetents. There is no way to reform such a bureaucracy. The whole system needs to be dismantled while an alternative system gets built; given the nature of Indian politics (freebies/jobs/reservations to certain groups; monthly stipends to certain groups by borrowing money while at the same time looting public funds), it is impossible.
    - therealdkz 5mo ago
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unmole 5mo ago
Tata and ASML recently signed an agreement to build a fab in India: https://www.reuters.com/world/india/tata-electronics-asml-partner-indias-first-semiconductor-fab-2026-05-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/india/tata-electronics-asml-pa... The Indian Government is heavily pushing for domestic capabilities. To understand why India failed to replicate the Chinese or East Asian model, I recommend A Sixth of Humanity by Devesh Kapoor and Aravind Subramanian.
spaceman_2020 5mo ago
As an Indian, my quality of life would be improved more by the Indian state first figuring out how to make functional roads and garbage collection systems India needs to first figure out the absolute basics
- KptMarchewa 5mo ago
  The way you pay for it is by producing goods that other countries want to buy.
jmb99 5mo ago
I am typing this on my return flight home from a business trip in Delhi. There are many other areas the Indian government needs to be focussing on first. I had a similar view to you ~2 weeks ago. Spending some time there very quickly made me realize that there’s a lot of other things that are much more pressing.
- tonyhart7 5mo ago
  such as ?????
Curosinono 5mo ago
I would argue that they are hold back by their own culture. Hygene, safety, etc. Higher education want to move or distant themselves from the poor, dirty or just caste separation. If you have the feeling that certain things are not your problem, you are not rising.

man i keep thinking. why cant india get into stuff like this. Do their own manhattan project to build factories and tech for this and immigrate experts with high salaries.

Synthetic7346 5mo ago

India doesn't have the coordination China does

blackoil 5mo ago

During Mao/cultural revolution for all the bad, two good things were great focus on K-12 education and reducing religious fundamentalism (curbing religious powerhouses). Both of them are now biting India, alongwith standard problems of corruption that plague most poor democracies.

rescbr 5mo ago
Both issues also plague Brazil. At least we have the CIA to blame on religious fundamentalism.

HDBaseT 5mo ago

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raincom 5mo ago

Thanks to Indian constitution and other laws, incompetence is heavily praised and promoted. Go to any public high/elementary schools, go to any private colleges, it is rampant. It has taken three generations to produce these bad results. Of course, I am not saying that students are dumb. It is just that many smart kids in villages if given an opportunity, will leave India in a heart beat because they don't see a bright future for their future kids.

spaceman_2020 5mo ago
Indian bureaucracy thinks extremely short term. The state prioritizes extracting revenue over all else. So many baffling short-term decisions over everything from corporate tax breaks to a incentives for global events like Formula 1.l You really can’t expect the same bureaucratic setup to think in terms of the decade+ it would take to be competent at something like chips
- raincom 5mo ago
  Indian bureaucracy exists to enrich themselves for their next ten generations. The bureaucracy itself promotes, recruits incompetents. There is no way to reform such a bureaucracy. The whole system needs to be dismantled while an alternative system gets built; given the nature of Indian politics (freebies/jobs/reservations to certain groups; monthly stipends to certain groups by borrowing money while at the same time looting public funds), it is impossible.
  - therealdkz 5mo ago
    [dead]

unmole 5mo ago

Tata and ASML recently signed an agreement to build a fab in India: https://www.reuters.com/world/india/tata-electronics-asml-partner-indias-first-semiconductor-fab-2026-05-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/india/tata-electronics-asml-pa... The Indian Government is heavily pushing for domestic capabilities. To understand why India failed to replicate the Chinese or East Asian model, I recommend A Sixth of Humanity by Devesh Kapoor and Aravind Subramanian.

spaceman_2020 5mo ago

As an Indian, my quality of life would be improved more by the Indian state first figuring out how to make functional roads and garbage collection systems India needs to first figure out the absolute basics

KptMarchewa 5mo ago
The way you pay for it is by producing goods that other countries want to buy.

jmb99 5mo ago

I am typing this on my return flight home from a business trip in Delhi. There are many other areas the Indian government needs to be focussing on first. I had a similar view to you ~2 weeks ago. Spending some time there very quickly made me realize that there’s a lot of other things that are much more pressing.

tonyhart7 5mo ago
such as ?????

Curosinono 5mo ago

I would argue that they are hold back by their own culture. Hygene, safety, etc. Higher education want to move or distant themselves from the poor, dirty or just caste separation. If you have the feeling that certain things are not your problem, you are not rising.