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It is not a law of nature that Chinese products are lower quality (cf. electric cars) and I don't see why they would go for that. They can just bin what they pr

It is not a law of nature that Chinese products are lower quality (cf. electric cars) and I don't see why they would go for that. They can just bin what they produce like everyone else and sell their products for what they have been tested to deliver.

nomel 5mo ago
But it is a near law that the first to market attempts will fully embraces the deeply engrained culture of 差不多, until market forces beat it out of the product line.
- fittingopposite 5mo ago
  What is 差不多?
  - bendangelo 5mo ago
    Basically means, “good enough” attitude.
    - xeonmc 5mo ago
      Not "good enough", but rather "close enough". Very different connotations.
      - fittingopposite 5mo ago
        Close enough in which sense?
        chrinic6391 5mo ago
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  - decimalenough 5mo ago
    Chabuduo, basically "good enough" (but often not really). Classic essay on the topic: https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-a...
    - khriss 5mo ago
      Seems very similar to the Indian concept of 'Chalta Hai'!
- kdheiwns 5mo ago
  That's no different from the Silicon Valley mindset of cashing out and jumping ship.
esseph 5mo ago
This has nothing to do about nationality, it has everything to do with building and running a brand new, highly technical, mass production facility.
- dylan604 5mo ago
  And historical record of the lack of QA coming from Chinese manufacturing
  - epolanski 5mo ago
    China is a gigantic country where one in 6 humans live that either produce directly or indirectly, 70%+ of the world's goods. It's quite difficult to make general statements at such a gargantuan scale encompassing every single sector. China has an abundance of terrific QA in electronics and advanced technologies as much as it has an abundance of the opposite, just simply due to its sheer size.
  - AngryData 5mo ago
    Because we buy that stuff even without it. And if you make both good and crappy products, why sell the good stuff internationally? The US did it when it was a bigger steel supplier, good steel was sold domestically, crappy steel was sold elsewhere. If you got crappy steel in Africa at the time you might have thought US steel was garbage with poor QA, but in reality US steel was great and they just shipped the crappy stuff because people still kept buying it.
  - WarOnPrivacy 5mo ago
    >And historical record of the lack of QA coming from Chinese manufacturing My endlessly excellent Chinese gear (Dahua cameras, XikeStor switches, etc) doesn't know what you're referring to.
- Ekaros 5mo ago
  The west absolutely loves enshitified products. So why not sell them what they want? If they wanted quality they would pay slightly more and do something about it.

nomel 5mo ago

But it is a near law that the first to market attempts will fully embraces the deeply engrained culture of 差不多, until market forces beat it out of the product line.

fittingopposite 5mo ago
What is 差不多?
- bendangelo 5mo ago
  Basically means, “good enough” attitude.
  - xeonmc 5mo ago
    Not "good enough", but rather "close enough". Very different connotations.
    - fittingopposite 5mo ago
      Close enough in which sense?
      - chrinic6391 5mo ago
        [dead]
- decimalenough 5mo ago
  Chabuduo, basically "good enough" (but often not really). Classic essay on the topic: https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-a...
  - khriss 5mo ago
    Seems very similar to the Indian concept of 'Chalta Hai'!
kdheiwns 5mo ago
That's no different from the Silicon Valley mindset of cashing out and jumping ship.

esseph 5mo ago

This has nothing to do about nationality, it has everything to do with building and running a brand new, highly technical, mass production facility.

dylan604 5mo ago
And historical record of the lack of QA coming from Chinese manufacturing
- epolanski 5mo ago
  China is a gigantic country where one in 6 humans live that either produce directly or indirectly, 70%+ of the world's goods. It's quite difficult to make general statements at such a gargantuan scale encompassing every single sector. China has an abundance of terrific QA in electronics and advanced technologies as much as it has an abundance of the opposite, just simply due to its sheer size.
- AngryData 5mo ago
  Because we buy that stuff even without it. And if you make both good and crappy products, why sell the good stuff internationally? The US did it when it was a bigger steel supplier, good steel was sold domestically, crappy steel was sold elsewhere. If you got crappy steel in Africa at the time you might have thought US steel was garbage with poor QA, but in reality US steel was great and they just shipped the crappy stuff because people still kept buying it.
- WarOnPrivacy 5mo ago
  >And historical record of the lack of QA coming from Chinese manufacturing My endlessly excellent Chinese gear (Dahua cameras, XikeStor switches, etc) doesn't know what you're referring to.
Ekaros 5mo ago
The west absolutely loves enshitified products. So why not sell them what they want? If they wanted quality they would pay slightly more and do something about it.