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> My real worry about seed oil theory is that it’s a distraction. If you want to be healthier, we know ways you can change your diet that will help: Increase yo

by port11 5mo ago

> My real worry about seed oil theory is that it’s a distraction. If you want to be healthier, we know ways you can change your diet that will help: Increase your overall diet “quality”. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables. Avoid processed food. Especially avoid processed meats. Eat food with low caloric density. Avoid added sugar. Avoid alcohol. Avoid processed food. > I know this is hard. You could even argue it’s unrealistic. That wouldn’t make it wrong. > Look, I wish strong seed oil theory were true. That would be great. All we’d have to do is reformulate our Cheetos with different oil, and then we could go on merrily eating Cheetos. Western diet without Western disease! Sadly, I think this is very unlikely. Dynomight has written an excellent article on seed oils. We have examples in our families of people with very bad diets, favouring tons of butter because ‘at least it’s not processed’. The research doesn't back this up. As the quote above suggests, we need to stop thinking of ‘magic bullets’ that’ll get us out of eating better. Added sugar and trans-fats might be the only true bullets. https://dynomight.net/seed-oil/ https://dynomight.net/seed-oil/

WarmWash 5mo ago
It seems like the person is fighting the good fight, maybe, but who is Dynomight? These random bloggers/influencers speaking from self-proclaimed high ground is in large part how we got in this mess. There are a gazillion people out there who know how to say the right things, to get the right minds, the click the right "follow" buttons, none of which has any bearing on truth, honesty, or accuracy.
- stogot 5mo ago
  Bloggers quoting bloggers quoting instagrammers quoting TikTok
- gruez 5mo ago
  >These random bloggers/influencers speaking from self-proclaimed high ground is in large part how we got in this mess. There are a gazillion people out there who know how to say the right things, to get the right minds, the click the right "follow" buttons, none of which has any bearing on truth, honesty, or accuracy. Did you get to the end? He addresses that. >I’ll just be honest. I think this view is completely indefensible. I feel embarrassed when I see people promoting it. You’re sure? How? I don’t see any way to get to this conclusion other than heavily filtering the evidence—ignoring the flaws in everything that supports a predetermined view while scrambling to find flaws in everything that contradicts it. >Again, I’m sure you can send me long lists of random citations. (You don’t need to send them; it’s OK; I’ve seen them already.) But for anything that’s been studied in detail, there’s always lots of evidence to support any semi-plausible view. Do you have any idea how much evidence people can produce for UFOs or chronic Lyme or colloidal silver?
  - leereeves 5mo ago
    > I don’t see any way to get to this conclusion other than heavily filtering the evidence—ignoring the flaws in everything that supports a predetermined view while scrambling to find flaws in everything that contradicts it. Is that not what he's doing when he dismisses the evidence that contradicts his view?
    - port11 5mo ago
      The article is fairly good. He specifically addresses research that doesn't support the conclusion. He’s not exactly a random blogger, this person is known for the quality of their research. At least in my circles…
  - WarmWash 5mo ago
    Why would I spend my time reading a random blog? The author makes no effort anywhere on the site to give themselves any credibility. They don't even give their name or occupation. A google search lends no more real information either. From my POV it might as well be a youtube comment that is 8 pages long.
    - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
      > Why would I spend my time reading a random blog? Because other HackerNews readers have determined that it's interesting. Ideally, you should let the quality of the writing be more important to you than who wrote it. However, I've read enough previous blog posts from there that I recognise the "dynomight" name as being worth a click and a read.
ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
> we need to stop thinking of ‘magic bullets’ that’ll get us out of eating better I daresay that dietary fibre is likely the only 'magic bullet' that would improve people's diets and health. Or at least, non-processed fibre as some "food products" have cellulose/sawdust added to bump up the fibre figure.
- port11 5mo ago
  And yet, increase consumption too much too quickly and you end up with influencers that talk about constipation and haemorrhoids, and how fibre causes IBS. (I agree with your points btw.)
  - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
    Yes, suddenly changing your dietary amount of fibre leads to various side effects. However, having lots of fibre in your diet will tend to prevent bowel diseases rather than causing them. (I just looked on the NHS page about IBS and sorbitol pops up there a couple of times which I thought was interesting - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/diet-lifestyle-and-medicines/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/d...)

by port11 5mo ago

WarmWash 5mo ago

It seems like the person is fighting the good fight, maybe, but who is Dynomight? These random bloggers/influencers speaking from self-proclaimed high ground is in large part how we got in this mess. There are a gazillion people out there who know how to say the right things, to get the right minds, the click the right "follow" buttons, none of which has any bearing on truth, honesty, or accuracy.

stogot 5mo ago
Bloggers quoting bloggers quoting instagrammers quoting TikTok
gruez 5mo ago
>These random bloggers/influencers speaking from self-proclaimed high ground is in large part how we got in this mess. There are a gazillion people out there who know how to say the right things, to get the right minds, the click the right "follow" buttons, none of which has any bearing on truth, honesty, or accuracy. Did you get to the end? He addresses that. >I’ll just be honest. I think this view is completely indefensible. I feel embarrassed when I see people promoting it. You’re sure? How? I don’t see any way to get to this conclusion other than heavily filtering the evidence—ignoring the flaws in everything that supports a predetermined view while scrambling to find flaws in everything that contradicts it. >Again, I’m sure you can send me long lists of random citations. (You don’t need to send them; it’s OK; I’ve seen them already.) But for anything that’s been studied in detail, there’s always lots of evidence to support any semi-plausible view. Do you have any idea how much evidence people can produce for UFOs or chronic Lyme or colloidal silver?
- leereeves 5mo ago
  > I don’t see any way to get to this conclusion other than heavily filtering the evidence—ignoring the flaws in everything that supports a predetermined view while scrambling to find flaws in everything that contradicts it. Is that not what he's doing when he dismisses the evidence that contradicts his view?
  - port11 5mo ago
    The article is fairly good. He specifically addresses research that doesn't support the conclusion. He’s not exactly a random blogger, this person is known for the quality of their research. At least in my circles…
- WarmWash 5mo ago
  Why would I spend my time reading a random blog? The author makes no effort anywhere on the site to give themselves any credibility. They don't even give their name or occupation. A google search lends no more real information either. From my POV it might as well be a youtube comment that is 8 pages long.
  - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
    > Why would I spend my time reading a random blog? Because other HackerNews readers have determined that it's interesting. Ideally, you should let the quality of the writing be more important to you than who wrote it. However, I've read enough previous blog posts from there that I recognise the "dynomight" name as being worth a click and a read.

ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago

> we need to stop thinking of ‘magic bullets’ that’ll get us out of eating better I daresay that dietary fibre is likely the only 'magic bullet' that would improve people's diets and health. Or at least, non-processed fibre as some "food products" have cellulose/sawdust added to bump up the fibre figure.

port11 5mo ago
And yet, increase consumption too much too quickly and you end up with influencers that talk about constipation and haemorrhoids, and how fibre causes IBS. (I agree with your points btw.)
- ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
  Yes, suddenly changing your dietary amount of fibre leads to various side effects. However, having lots of fibre in your diet will tend to prevent bowel diseases rather than causing them. (I just looked on the NHS page about IBS and sorbitol pops up there a couple of times which I thought was interesting - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/diet-lifestyle-and-medicines/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/d...)