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Point of order: Anthropic is the most important AI company now.

outside1234 4mo ago
It really does feel like OpenAI has lost their leadership. I haven’t used a model of theirs, let alone an app, in months.
tim333 4mo ago
People discount Google/Deepmind but a lot of the original research was done there including inventing transformers which form the basis of the other AI companies.
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- tyre 4mo ago
  If anything, the amount of original and foundational research at Google is a black mark against their position now. They blew a hell of a lead. I’m willing to discount what they did almost a decade ago (“Attention is All You Need” was 2017) in an industry that moves this quickly. The execution of an Anthropic matters more now.
  - borski 4mo ago
    Short term, that’s definitely true. Long term, I’m not so sure.
CuriouslyC 4mo ago
Anthropic is the most hyped AI company now. Their models aren't the best, but their marketing sure is.
- sumedh 4mo ago
  > Their models aren't the best the market has spoken, for coding they are the best.
  - CuriouslyC 4mo ago
    The market has spoken: McDonald's makes the best hamburgers.
  - 7thpower 4mo ago
    Can you please define what “best” is and why the market is a measure for it.
    - sumedh 4mo ago
      Money is the most honest transaction, if people are paying money to anthropic it means its solving their pain. Its the same reason OpenAI and others are copying Anthropic.
      - CuriouslyC 4mo ago
        This is some late-stage capitalist cope. Money goes to the person who can hoodwink people into thinking their product will do something they care about, not the person with the product that actually does something people want. There are a litany of examples of people swearing up and down by products that have been scientifically proven to __DO NOTHING__. The correlation between popularity and quality is tenuous AT BEST.
        sumedh 4mo ago
        > Money goes to the person who can hoodwink people into thinking their product will do something they care about So Google, MS, FB, OpenAI could not "hoodwink" people?
        CuriouslyC 4mo ago
        MS is hoodwinking people all day long brother, just not in AI.
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It really does feel like OpenAI has lost their leadership. I haven’t used a model of theirs, let alone an app, in months.

tim333 4mo ago

People discount Google/Deepmind but a lot of the original research was done there including inventing transformers which form the basis of the other AI companies.

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tyre 4mo ago
If anything, the amount of original and foundational research at Google is a black mark against their position now. They blew a hell of a lead. I’m willing to discount what they did almost a decade ago (“Attention is All You Need” was 2017) in an industry that moves this quickly. The execution of an Anthropic matters more now.
- borski 4mo ago
  Short term, that’s definitely true. Long term, I’m not so sure.

CuriouslyC 4mo ago

Anthropic is the most hyped AI company now. Their models aren't the best, but their marketing sure is.

sumedh 4mo ago
> Their models aren't the best the market has spoken, for coding they are the best.
- CuriouslyC 4mo ago
  The market has spoken: McDonald's makes the best hamburgers.
- 7thpower 4mo ago
  Can you please define what “best” is and why the market is a measure for it.
  - sumedh 4mo ago
    Money is the most honest transaction, if people are paying money to anthropic it means its solving their pain. Its the same reason OpenAI and others are copying Anthropic.
    - CuriouslyC 4mo ago
      This is some late-stage capitalist cope. Money goes to the person who can hoodwink people into thinking their product will do something they care about, not the person with the product that actually does something people want. There are a litany of examples of people swearing up and down by products that have been scientifically proven to __DO NOTHING__. The correlation between popularity and quality is tenuous AT BEST.
      - sumedh 4mo ago
        > Money goes to the person who can hoodwink people into thinking their product will do something they care about So Google, MS, FB, OpenAI could not "hoodwink" people?
        CuriouslyC 4mo ago
        MS is hoodwinking people all day long brother, just not in AI.

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