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I’ll save you a click: yes, of course it was a no bid contract. And: > The procurement did not require the system to clear FedRAMP, the government’s security r

by afavour 5mo ago

I’ll save you a click: yes, of course it was a no bid contract. And: > The procurement did not require the system to clear FedRAMP, the government’s security review for cloud systems handling sensitive data, before deployment. It described no independent audit, congressional notification or outside review of how the system would be used. I don’t know how the US charts a path back from all this. There are going to be so many breaches to fix.

JohnMakin 5mo ago
it’s over
mikeyouse 5mo ago
Torn between anger at all the incompetent chucklefucks getting rich off taxpayer money and gratitude at them bestowing these contracts on useless sycophants instead of competent organizations..
- pryce 5mo ago
  I have a strong suspicion the rationale for how they select providers on will turn out to be kickbacks and self-dealing.
black_13 5mo ago
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0xbadcafebee 5mo ago
Technically you could already win contracts without all those things, there are like a thousand loopholes. FedRAMP in particular only really covers cloud hosting, there are other DoD standards you have to follow for more specific systems. And if the agency isn't DoD, I don't think they apply anyway. If we had a software building code that applied to digital infrastructure in general, the way building codes apply to buildings in general, and electrical codes apply to electrical installation in general, this wouldn't be an issue, because you'd need your shit together to make any software product. But nobody seems to mind companies making shit products and leaking all our data.
era-epoch 5mo ago
The current US administration is already on the multiple-decades level of cleanup, and looking at the political group nominally tasked with doing said cleanup, the more likely answer would seem to be "never".
GolfPopper 5mo ago
>I don’t know how the US charts a path back from all this. There isn't one. And the sooner we all come to terms with that, the better off we and posterity will be. The constitutional government of the United States failed long before January 20th, 2025. Chasing sunk costs on this scale as futile, even if the alternatives are terrifying. In my opinion, the best, just, course forward is a Constitutional Convention that dissolves the United States Government and replaces it with nothing. Let the states and territories govern themselves as they choose, and work out needed compacts and agreements going forward.
- jadbox 5mo ago
  Boggles my mind you'd even imagine a positive scenario here. Let the states choose? This is not only how we kept slavery going by letting states drive, but it also caused a civic war when we had no federal coordination. Nay, we must reform and reclaim a just federal government. Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence.
  - esseph 5mo ago
    The states should be free to choose their own course. Citizens should be allowed to move freely between them. May the best governance win.
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  - esseph 5mo ago
    > Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence. Who days that doesn't happen now? Seems like wishful thinking.
- myko 5mo ago
  He should've been locked up on January 7th. That was the death knell.
- smallmancontrov 5mo ago
Revanche1367 5mo ago
There is no path back. Even if the next administration overturns ICE and its activities and dissolves all contracts related to them, there is no reason to think the US govt will not keep using any and all technologies or services obtained in the name of security, regardless of party, even if they have to do so with deep secrecy.
- noir_lord 5mo ago
  Also nothing prevents Trump v2.0 in 4 years after that since all the conditions will still exist in 4 years. For anyone outside the US (including me), it's dismaying. It's not like any of us thought the US was perfect (at least those of who like history, no country is and the US has more issues than many) but they just straight took the wheel and swerved it into a wall.
jmcgough 5mo ago
How do we know there's any plan to accomplish this, and that this isn't just funneling $25M to a family member?

by afavour 5mo ago

JohnMakin 5mo ago

it’s over

mikeyouse 5mo ago

Torn between anger at all the incompetent chucklefucks getting rich off taxpayer money and gratitude at them bestowing these contracts on useless sycophants instead of competent organizations..

pryce 5mo ago
I have a strong suspicion the rationale for how they select providers on will turn out to be kickbacks and self-dealing.

black_13 5mo ago

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0xbadcafebee 5mo ago

Technically you could already win contracts without all those things, there are like a thousand loopholes. FedRAMP in particular only really covers cloud hosting, there are other DoD standards you have to follow for more specific systems. And if the agency isn't DoD, I don't think they apply anyway. If we had a software building code that applied to digital infrastructure in general, the way building codes apply to buildings in general, and electrical codes apply to electrical installation in general, this wouldn't be an issue, because you'd need your shit together to make any software product. But nobody seems to mind companies making shit products and leaking all our data.

era-epoch 5mo ago

The current US administration is already on the multiple-decades level of cleanup, and looking at the political group nominally tasked with doing said cleanup, the more likely answer would seem to be "never".

GolfPopper 5mo ago

>I don’t know how the US charts a path back from all this. There isn't one. And the sooner we all come to terms with that, the better off we and posterity will be. The constitutional government of the United States failed long before January 20th, 2025. Chasing sunk costs on this scale as futile, even if the alternatives are terrifying. In my opinion, the best, just, course forward is a Constitutional Convention that dissolves the United States Government and replaces it with nothing. Let the states and territories govern themselves as they choose, and work out needed compacts and agreements going forward.

jadbox 5mo ago
Boggles my mind you'd even imagine a positive scenario here. Let the states choose? This is not only how we kept slavery going by letting states drive, but it also caused a civic war when we had no federal coordination. Nay, we must reform and reclaim a just federal government. Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence.
- esseph 5mo ago
  The states should be free to choose their own course. Citizens should be allowed to move freely between them. May the best governance win.
  - deleted 5mo ago
    [deleted]
- esseph 5mo ago
  > Letting states drive themselves will turn the country into extreme violence. Who days that doesn't happen now? Seems like wishful thinking.
myko 5mo ago
He should've been locked up on January 7th. That was the death knell.
smallmancontrov 5mo ago

Revanche1367 5mo ago

There is no path back. Even if the next administration overturns ICE and its activities and dissolves all contracts related to them, there is no reason to think the US govt will not keep using any and all technologies or services obtained in the name of security, regardless of party, even if they have to do so with deep secrecy.

noir_lord 5mo ago
Also nothing prevents Trump v2.0 in 4 years after that since all the conditions will still exist in 4 years. For anyone outside the US (including me), it's dismaying. It's not like any of us thought the US was perfect (at least those of who like history, no country is and the US has more issues than many) but they just straight took the wheel and swerved it into a wall.

jmcgough 5mo ago

How do we know there's any plan to accomplish this, and that this isn't just funneling $25M to a family member?