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> It's completely illogical that a person must first stay in a country for 5 years to become eligible This is wrong. There is no minimum time in the country fo

> It's completely illogical that a person must first stay in a country for 5 years to become eligible This is wrong. There is no minimum time in the country for a green card. You are thinking of citizenship. That is different.

thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
Wow. Downvotes for stating an obviously verifiable fact. HN is now filled with agenda pushers peddling obvious fake information about the US.
- ohyoutravel 5mo ago
  Can you think of any other reasons why you might have been downvoted? It seems a little conspiracy-minded to jump to “agenda pushing” I think.
- FireBeyond 5mo ago
  Because while the green card itself has no minimum requirements on time spent in the US, with the exception of the DV program, all of the visas with green card pathways have one. So yes, there is - it's just attached to the visa pathway that determines green card eligibility, not the green card itself.
chimeracoder 5mo ago
> This is wrong. There is no minimum time in the country for a green card. You are thinking of citizenship. That is different. You are incorrect. What you said is technically true in that there is no statute that requires it, but in practice, OP is correct. It varies depending on the country of origin, but in the case of immigrants who hold citizenship from India, which is the country OP mentioned, you can likely expect to have to wait that period or even much longer before becoming eligible, unless you have a way to otherwise jump the queue.
- morpheuskafka 5mo ago
  You absolutely have to wait several years, but the point they were making is, there is no requirement to have ever worked IN the US or held any nonimmigrant visa to get a green card. The way the law was originally written, both the employment and family green card categories are standalone. They require work/research accomplishments, but there is zero requirement that that work was ever done in the US or for a US company. Because it takes so long, in practice the issue is that for anyone to sponsor you, they want you working for them during that time, and so that's why it often looks like someone gets an H1B and then "graduates" to a green card.
airstrike 5mo ago
While you are correct, that's a minor issue in an otherwise cogent post by the parent, so addressing those other more substantial points first would have made the debate better.

thesmtsolver2 5mo ago

Wow. Downvotes for stating an obviously verifiable fact. HN is now filled with agenda pushers peddling obvious fake information about the US.

ohyoutravel 5mo ago
Can you think of any other reasons why you might have been downvoted? It seems a little conspiracy-minded to jump to “agenda pushing” I think.
FireBeyond 5mo ago
Because while the green card itself has no minimum requirements on time spent in the US, with the exception of the DV program, all of the visas with green card pathways have one. So yes, there is - it's just attached to the visa pathway that determines green card eligibility, not the green card itself.

chimeracoder 5mo ago

> This is wrong. There is no minimum time in the country for a green card. You are thinking of citizenship. That is different. You are incorrect. What you said is technically true in that there is no statute that requires it, but in practice, OP is correct. It varies depending on the country of origin, but in the case of immigrants who hold citizenship from India, which is the country OP mentioned, you can likely expect to have to wait that period or even much longer before becoming eligible, unless you have a way to otherwise jump the queue.

morpheuskafka 5mo ago
You absolutely have to wait several years, but the point they were making is, there is no requirement to have ever worked IN the US or held any nonimmigrant visa to get a green card. The way the law was originally written, both the employment and family green card categories are standalone. They require work/research accomplishments, but there is zero requirement that that work was ever done in the US or for a US company. Because it takes so long, in practice the issue is that for anyone to sponsor you, they want you working for them during that time, and so that's why it often looks like someone gets an H1B and then "graduates" to a green card.

airstrike 5mo ago

While you are correct, that's a minor issue in an otherwise cogent post by the parent, so addressing those other more substantial points first would have made the debate better.