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All this said I'm more concerned about Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) on smartTV you buy in the store and never even realize it's phoning home with everyth

by kator 4mo ago

All this said I'm more concerned about Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) on smartTV you buy in the store and never even realize it's phoning home with everything you watch...

guilamu 4mo ago
If you're concerned about that do not give internet to your tv and use any kind of tv box instead (shield tv, apple tv, etc).
- Shadowmist 4mo ago
  How long until they have built in cellular or use a mesh?
  - bentcorner 4mo ago
    I'm certain there are a non-zero number of TVs that either attempt to auto-join popular wifi hotspots (xfinity/tmobile/starbucks/etc.) and/or have cellular connections for telemetry. Thinking more on this I think a business opportunity in the future will be companies that design hardware stacks that can go in random appliances that can gather usage information in the name of telemetry. I give it +/- 5 years before an OTS coffee maker at walmart phones home.
- iLoveOncall 4mo ago
  So that TV box can phone home instead of your smart TV? What's the point?
  - drfloyd51 4mo ago
    Different homes are being phoned. If that matters.
  - antiframe 4mo ago
    Use a TV box that doesn't phone home, obviously. Also, don't buy a smart TV but a monitor.
- Buildstarted 4mo ago
  with things like amazon's sidewalk you might not have any choice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk
- drnick1 4mo ago
  I wouldn't use Apple TV, Shield or other proprietary black boxes if you want a private setup. Linux on a mini-PC with Plasma Bigscreen, your own over-the-air antenna for local TV, VacuumTube for YT, and the high seas for other content.
JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
> I'm more concerned about Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) on smartTV You’re more concerned about privacy when it comes to TV viewing than medical data? What a strange hijacking of a serious thread…
- mcmcmc 4mo ago
  When you buy a medical data collection device and it collects medical data that’s not exactly a surprise
  - fn-mote 4mo ago
    The problem isn’t the collecting, it’s who has access to the data.
    - Obscurity4340 4mo ago
      Nah, yeah the problem is also collecting the data in that way for to begin with
    - mcmcmc 4mo ago
      Unless encryption is advertised as a feature, it’s a safe assumption that vendors that host your data will have access to it, the cloud being someone else’s computer and all that.
- drfloyd51 4mo ago
  Whataboutism in fancy clothes.

by kator 4mo ago

All this said I'm more concerned about Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) on smartTV you buy in the store and never even realize it's phoning home with everything you watch...

guilamu 4mo ago

If you're concerned about that do not give internet to your tv and use any kind of tv box instead (shield tv, apple tv, etc).

Shadowmist 4mo ago
How long until they have built in cellular or use a mesh?
- bentcorner 4mo ago
  I'm certain there are a non-zero number of TVs that either attempt to auto-join popular wifi hotspots (xfinity/tmobile/starbucks/etc.) and/or have cellular connections for telemetry. Thinking more on this I think a business opportunity in the future will be companies that design hardware stacks that can go in random appliances that can gather usage information in the name of telemetry. I give it +/- 5 years before an OTS coffee maker at walmart phones home.
iLoveOncall 4mo ago
So that TV box can phone home instead of your smart TV? What's the point?
- drfloyd51 4mo ago
  Different homes are being phoned. If that matters.
- antiframe 4mo ago
  Use a TV box that doesn't phone home, obviously. Also, don't buy a smart TV but a monitor.
Buildstarted 4mo ago
with things like amazon's sidewalk you might not have any choice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk
drnick1 4mo ago
I wouldn't use Apple TV, Shield or other proprietary black boxes if you want a private setup. Linux on a mini-PC with Plasma Bigscreen, your own over-the-air antenna for local TV, VacuumTube for YT, and the high seas for other content.

JumpCrisscross 4mo ago

> I'm more concerned about Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) on smartTV You’re more concerned about privacy when it comes to TV viewing than medical data? What a strange hijacking of a serious thread…

mcmcmc 4mo ago
When you buy a medical data collection device and it collects medical data that’s not exactly a surprise
- fn-mote 4mo ago
  The problem isn’t the collecting, it’s who has access to the data.
  - Obscurity4340 4mo ago
    Nah, yeah the problem is also collecting the data in that way for to begin with
  - mcmcmc 4mo ago
    Unless encryption is advertised as a feature, it’s a safe assumption that vendors that host your data will have access to it, the cloud being someone else’s computer and all that.
drfloyd51 4mo ago
Whataboutism in fancy clothes.