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> the once-responsive Oura has not yet replied to any of my inquiries, or committed to releasing the numbers Illinois has a tight biometric-privacy law [1]. I’

> the once-responsive Oura has not yet replied to any of my inquiries, or committed to releasing the numbers Illinois has a tight biometric-privacy law [1]. I’d bet Oura isn’t particularly careful about prohibiting e.g. a Texas police department querying the protected information of Illinois residents. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Information_Privacy_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Information_Privacy_...

p-e-w 6mo ago
Why would they be careful, given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero?
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
  > given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero? I’m assuming that Oura are assuming that this—the Illinois BIPA is toothless—is true. It is not [1]. [1] https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-privacy-and-cybersecurity-law/20250219-year-in-review-2024-bipa-litigation-takeaways https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-priv...
  - selectodude 6mo ago
    Yeah I’ve probably gotten $100 in class action money from that law so far.
- reaperducer 6mo ago
  Why would they be careful, given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero? Your cynicism is at odds with reality. I got a check for nearly $500 because when I was an Illinois resident, one of the SV tech companies violated that law. All it takes is one or two people to get in the ear of the right class action lawyer, and ignoring the rules quickly becomes expensive. Or you could just grouse on HN and accomplish effectively zero.
  - sylos 6mo ago
    You got a check for $500, but now your info is who knows where and the company involved is still making more money than not. You lost out.
    - blitzar 6mo ago
      You didn't get a check for $500, and my info is who knows where and a bunch of companies, criminals and startups are making money off it.

p-e-w 6mo ago

Why would they be careful, given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero?

JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
> given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero? I’m assuming that Oura are assuming that this—the Illinois BIPA is toothless—is true. It is not [1]. [1] https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-privacy-and-cybersecurity-law/20250219-year-in-review-2024-bipa-litigation-takeaways https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-priv...
- selectodude 6mo ago
  Yeah I’ve probably gotten $100 in class action money from that law so far.
reaperducer 6mo ago
Why would they be careful, given that the chances of any serious consequences for ignoring such provisions are effectively zero? Your cynicism is at odds with reality. I got a check for nearly $500 because when I was an Illinois resident, one of the SV tech companies violated that law. All it takes is one or two people to get in the ear of the right class action lawyer, and ignoring the rules quickly becomes expensive. Or you could just grouse on HN and accomplish effectively zero.
- sylos 6mo ago
  You got a check for $500, but now your info is who knows where and the company involved is still making more money than not. You lost out.
  - blitzar 6mo ago
    You didn't get a check for $500, and my info is who knows where and a bunch of companies, criminals and startups are making money off it.