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I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how. The extreme majority of people has no fucking clue about how to act about anything, and it's definit

I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how. The extreme majority of people has no fucking clue about how to act about anything, and it's definitely the biggest blocker.

boston_clone 5mo ago
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jlaternman 5mo ago
One of the biggest forces is simply the voice of the people, as demonstrated in threads like this. Note how NordVPN cited growing public sentiment against taking half the internet down in Spain in an attempt to stop streams during games.
fsflover 5mo ago
One way is to support https://eff.org https://eff.org or https://edri.org https://edri.org.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  More directly relevant to the context would be some similar Spanish organizations: https://xnet-x.net/en/ https://xnet-x.net/en/, https://criptica.gitlab.io/ https://criptica.gitlab.io/, https://libertadinformacion.cc/ https://libertadinformacion.cc/ and https://laweb.pangea.org/ https://laweb.pangea.org/ are a few, I'm sure there are more I'm missing :)
- fsflover 5mo ago
  Why downvotes? Here is a relevant link: https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca
  - rvnx 5mo ago
    LaLiga is relying mostly on EU Copyright Directive and DSA to enforce their blocking rights. EFF is a Californian organization holding a big treasure chest (60M USD), in surplus of donations, that does not operate in European courts. In terms of donations, even if you would give them 50'000 USD it's a rounding error in their budget (just put it on the pile). For example Xnet can actually go to Spanish courts but they have less money in total in their bank than the average salary of a random EFF employee.
    - fsflover 5mo ago
      The problem does affect the US, which is why I mentioned a US organization. I don't see how the surplus affects anything. I don't believe they have enough funds for everything. EDRi is relevant for EU: https://edri.org/our-work/edrigramnumber2-10italy/ https://edri.org/our-work/edrigramnumber2-10italy/
DANmode 5mo ago
> I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how Same way you “how” any problem - educate yourself. Start reading, start asking and talking about it.
40four 5mo ago
I’ve been thinking about exactly this for a while. Non-technical people just don’t understand all the moving pieces, let alone what action they should take. I agree with you, we need more conversation and guidance detailing what easy steps people can take to harden their security posture, and why that matters.

I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how. The extreme majority of people has no fucking clue about how to act about anything, and it's definitely the biggest blocker.

boston_clone 5mo ago

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jlaternman 5mo ago

One of the biggest forces is simply the voice of the people, as demonstrated in threads like this. Note how NordVPN cited growing public sentiment against taking half the internet down in Spain in an attempt to stop streams during games.

fsflover 5mo ago

One way is to support https://eff.org https://eff.org or https://edri.org https://edri.org.

embedding-shape 5mo ago
More directly relevant to the context would be some similar Spanish organizations: https://xnet-x.net/en/ https://xnet-x.net/en/, https://criptica.gitlab.io/ https://criptica.gitlab.io/, https://libertadinformacion.cc/ https://libertadinformacion.cc/ and https://laweb.pangea.org/ https://laweb.pangea.org/ are a few, I'm sure there are more I'm missing :)
fsflover 5mo ago
Why downvotes? Here is a relevant link: https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca
- rvnx 5mo ago
  LaLiga is relying mostly on EU Copyright Directive and DSA to enforce their blocking rights. EFF is a Californian organization holding a big treasure chest (60M USD), in surplus of donations, that does not operate in European courts. In terms of donations, even if you would give them 50'000 USD it's a rounding error in their budget (just put it on the pile). For example Xnet can actually go to Spanish courts but they have less money in total in their bank than the average salary of a random EFF employee.
  - fsflover 5mo ago
    The problem does affect the US, which is why I mentioned a US organization. I don't see how the surplus affects anything. I don't believe they have enough funds for everything. EDRi is relevant for EU: https://edri.org/our-work/edrigramnumber2-10italy/ https://edri.org/our-work/edrigramnumber2-10italy/

DANmode 5mo ago

> I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how Same way you “how” any problem - educate yourself. Start reading, start asking and talking about it.

40four 5mo ago

I’ve been thinking about exactly this for a while. Non-technical people just don’t understand all the moving pieces, let alone what action they should take. I agree with you, we need more conversation and guidance detailing what easy steps people can take to harden their security posture, and why that matters.