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To be honest whatever author wanted to say there three categories of AI related companies: hardware manufacturers, cloud providers and purely AI companies. Onl

by SXX 5mo ago

To be honest whatever author wanted to say there three categories of AI related companies: hardware manufacturers, cloud providers and purely AI companies. Only the later have something to lose if AI bubble gone by tomorrow. Everyone else will just stay with grown capacity and reuse infrastructure for whatever. Not listing other hardware companies is just dishinest. AI is not a crypto mining where resources are just burned.

flexagoon 5mo ago
> Not listing other hardware companies is just dishinest. AI is not a crypto mining where resources are just burned. AI is exactly like crypto mining in that Nvidia is the one who profited from both
- SXX 5mo ago
  Crypto mining bubble was 99% of speculation plus scams and 1% of R&D for decentralized finance. No matter what happen with the AI bubble text, image and video and other generative neural networks are here to stay. Whatever you like it or not this tech already changed a lot of industries and there is no going back.
  - nothercastle 5mo ago
    Bitcoin is here to stay so is crypto but the impact was much more limited then initially predicted
    - DrewADesign 5mo ago
      And the money these companies are blowing on all of this shit is banking on them being ‘the’ dominant player in a completely world-changing commodity industry.
      - andirk 5mo ago
        Being "a" player in a multi-billion $ industry is also pretty good. For example, Bing gets some small % of the search engine market, but that's still a ton of market and $. And Foursquare/Swarm is used by like 0.01% of the population, but they can still map the exact floor plan of Macy's and that Chipotle will lose 30% of their share value from people shiitting blood (both were extremely accurate). And then Bing gets a pretty big upgrade: ChatGPT. And here we are.
        DrewADesign 5mo ago
        Not for the amount of money they are spending to get there. Spending Money you’ll be paying back for decades to be a middling contender, without a significant moat, for something without any clearly-defined, real practical, sustainable business use cases is absolutely terrible.
        DrewADesign 5mo ago
        s/any/many
  - flexagoon 5mo ago
    I specifically said they're the same in that Nvidia profited from both of them, not that they are the same in all other aspects.
DrewADesign 5mo ago
I haven’t heard any compelling use case, in the event of an industry implosion, for many many many billions of dollars of GPUs that were already proven too unprofitable to operate for the industry they were built for. Dark fiber, for example, had a much more compelling use case.

by SXX 5mo ago

flexagoon 5mo ago

> Not listing other hardware companies is just dishinest. AI is not a crypto mining where resources are just burned. AI is exactly like crypto mining in that Nvidia is the one who profited from both

SXX 5mo ago
Crypto mining bubble was 99% of speculation plus scams and 1% of R&D for decentralized finance. No matter what happen with the AI bubble text, image and video and other generative neural networks are here to stay. Whatever you like it or not this tech already changed a lot of industries and there is no going back.
- nothercastle 5mo ago
  Bitcoin is here to stay so is crypto but the impact was much more limited then initially predicted
  - DrewADesign 5mo ago
    And the money these companies are blowing on all of this shit is banking on them being ‘the’ dominant player in a completely world-changing commodity industry.
    - andirk 5mo ago
      Being "a" player in a multi-billion $ industry is also pretty good. For example, Bing gets some small % of the search engine market, but that's still a ton of market and $. And Foursquare/Swarm is used by like 0.01% of the population, but they can still map the exact floor plan of Macy's and that Chipotle will lose 30% of their share value from people shiitting blood (both were extremely accurate). And then Bing gets a pretty big upgrade: ChatGPT. And here we are.
      - DrewADesign 5mo ago
        Not for the amount of money they are spending to get there. Spending Money you’ll be paying back for decades to be a middling contender, without a significant moat, for something without any clearly-defined, real practical, sustainable business use cases is absolutely terrible.
        DrewADesign 5mo ago
        s/any/many
- flexagoon 5mo ago
  I specifically said they're the same in that Nvidia profited from both of them, not that they are the same in all other aspects.

DrewADesign 5mo ago

I haven’t heard any compelling use case, in the event of an industry implosion, for many many many billions of dollars of GPUs that were already proven too unprofitable to operate for the industry they were built for. Dark fiber, for example, had a much more compelling use case.