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by e40 5mo ago

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dannyobrien 5mo ago
Have you read the responses to (at least) the first of these videos? https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center-and https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center... Also, I thought the response by Benn Jordan on Bluesky was informative. https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center-and?open=false#%C2%A7jordans-response-to-this-article-was-pretty-goofy-and-reaffirmed-that-he-cant-defend-any-of-his-misleading-citations https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center...
- shimman 5mo ago
  It would be helpful if you didn't post rebuttals from people with a massive financial incentive to do so.
  - gruez 5mo ago
    Ad homniems aside, is the accusation even accurate? So far as I can tell he doesn't obviously have "a massive financial incentive to do so", like he's a VC investor in anthropic or whatever. He does seem to be bullish on AI in general, but I'm not sure why that'd be a disqualification for someone on the pro-ai camp any more than someone who's interested in retaining their property values or whatever would be a disqualifier for the anti-ai camp.
    - danaris 5mo ago
      That's not an ad hominem, though? Ad hominem would be if shimman had said something like "don't post rebuttals from people who are stupid meanyheads". Identifying a characteristic of the posters that affects their incentives is a perfectly legitimate reason to discredit their posts, or at least call their impartiality into question.
      - gruez 5mo ago
        From wikipedia: >Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem ('an argument to the person'), refers to when a speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. >motive Emphasis mine.
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  - pipes 5mo ago
    No it wouldn't. I want to hear his argument.
- amluto 5mo ago
  I read the first link and it said: > When low-frequency sound becomes strong enough to be heard or otherwise felt, it can cause annoyance, discomfort, and sleep disruption like any other normal noise pollution. So which is it? Sure, I don’t really believe that there is magical super special harmful noise from a datacenter, but are these monster datacenters emitting disruptive amounts of low frequency sound or are they not?

by e40 5mo ago

dannyobrien 5mo ago

Have you read the responses to (at least) the first of these videos? https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center-and https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center... Also, I thought the response by Benn Jordan on Bluesky was informative. https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center-and?open=false#%C2%A7jordans-response-to-this-article-was-pretty-goofy-and-reaffirmed-that-he-cant-defend-any-of-his-misleading-citations https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center...

shimman 5mo ago
It would be helpful if you didn't post rebuttals from people with a massive financial incentive to do so.
- gruez 5mo ago
  Ad homniems aside, is the accusation even accurate? So far as I can tell he doesn't obviously have "a massive financial incentive to do so", like he's a VC investor in anthropic or whatever. He does seem to be bullish on AI in general, but I'm not sure why that'd be a disqualification for someone on the pro-ai camp any more than someone who's interested in retaining their property values or whatever would be a disqualifier for the anti-ai camp.
  - danaris 5mo ago
    That's not an ad hominem, though? Ad hominem would be if shimman had said something like "don't post rebuttals from people who are stupid meanyheads". Identifying a characteristic of the posters that affects their incentives is a perfectly legitimate reason to discredit their posts, or at least call their impartiality into question.
    - gruez 5mo ago
      From wikipedia: >Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem ('an argument to the person'), refers to when a speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. >motive Emphasis mine.
- deleted 5mo ago
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- pipes 5mo ago
  No it wouldn't. I want to hear his argument.
amluto 5mo ago
I read the first link and it said: > When low-frequency sound becomes strong enough to be heard or otherwise felt, it can cause annoyance, discomfort, and sleep disruption like any other normal noise pollution. So which is it? Sure, I don’t really believe that there is magical super special harmful noise from a datacenter, but are these monster datacenters emitting disruptive amounts of low frequency sound or are they not?