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> Saying "because they vibe coded we are dropping support for Bun" sounds political. I disagree that this is a political stance. People based on their experien

> Saying "because they vibe coded we are dropping support for Bun" sounds political. I disagree that this is a political stance. People based on their experiences have formed opinions on whether they trust that model of development or not. Bun having taking extreme measure of going 100% in within a week is itself extreme positioning from their side which will likely result in extreme reactions because depending on who you are and your experience you'd bet on the fact that it may or may not work out.

irishcoffee 5mo ago
In all sincerity, what does political even mean in this context? ELI5, I’m a toddler when it comes to the politics of AI/LLMs.
- truncate 5mo ago
  Its a polarizing world with AI. There are fanboys drinking the kool-aid blindly listening to whatever Sammy/Dario/... say as gospel, and on other side there are haters who again blindly reject the fact that these AI tools can be actually be useful. I think that's what the politics is.
  - johnfn 5mo ago
    Yes - exactly! I honestly thought I was going crazy when a bunch of people were saying that this decision wasn't political in the slightest.
  - irishcoffee 5mo ago
    I’m tracking the polarity of the whole movement, I didn’t understand how politics was attached. I desperately don’t want the whole thing to become a left vs right disaster. We have enough of those.
    - __loam 5mo ago
      You might not like it but you actually live in a world with other people and building technology often affects their lives and they have opinions on it. For AI a lot of that impact has been negative.
      - irishcoffee 5mo ago
        I don't have the emotional energy to care, actually. This is actually fascinating. How does my opinion matter? Should I join all the socials (this is my only form of social media) and stand on my soapbox and shout into the void? Do I need to express I care so others know I care and have picked a side and have opionions on evrything? I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can virtue signal until the heat death of the universe/until I die, it matters not. I don't have the desire to spend the limited emotional bandwidth on giving a flaming fuck about the world around me. I'm not that arrogant or self-centered to think anyone else cares.
        __loam 5mo ago
        Engineers not caring is what leads to people working for scumbags who build socially poisonous technology.
        irishcoffee 5mo ago
        What if I told you I was a stay-at-home dad?
        wiseowise 5mo ago
        > I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can virtue signal until the heat death of the universe/until I die, it matters not. I don't have the desire to spend the limited emotional bandwidth on giving a flaming fuck about the world around me. I'm not that arrogant or self-centered to think anyone else cares. “Learned helplessness” himself graced us with his presence.
        cybercatgurrl 5mo ago
dwaite 5mo ago
I disagree as well, and wonder if the OP meant an emotional or ideological stance instead.
- johnfn 5mo ago
  Yes - this is indeed what I meant, thanks.

irishcoffee 5mo ago

In all sincerity, what does political even mean in this context? ELI5, I’m a toddler when it comes to the politics of AI/LLMs.

truncate 5mo ago
Its a polarizing world with AI. There are fanboys drinking the kool-aid blindly listening to whatever Sammy/Dario/... say as gospel, and on other side there are haters who again blindly reject the fact that these AI tools can be actually be useful. I think that's what the politics is.
- johnfn 5mo ago
  Yes - exactly! I honestly thought I was going crazy when a bunch of people were saying that this decision wasn't political in the slightest.
- irishcoffee 5mo ago
  I’m tracking the polarity of the whole movement, I didn’t understand how politics was attached. I desperately don’t want the whole thing to become a left vs right disaster. We have enough of those.
  - __loam 5mo ago
    You might not like it but you actually live in a world with other people and building technology often affects their lives and they have opinions on it. For AI a lot of that impact has been negative.
    - irishcoffee 5mo ago
      I don't have the emotional energy to care, actually. This is actually fascinating. How does my opinion matter? Should I join all the socials (this is my only form of social media) and stand on my soapbox and shout into the void? Do I need to express I care so others know I care and have picked a side and have opionions on evrything? I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can virtue signal until the heat death of the universe/until I die, it matters not. I don't have the desire to spend the limited emotional bandwidth on giving a flaming fuck about the world around me. I'm not that arrogant or self-centered to think anyone else cares.
      - __loam 5mo ago
        Engineers not caring is what leads to people working for scumbags who build socially poisonous technology.
        irishcoffee 5mo ago
        What if I told you I was a stay-at-home dad?
      - wiseowise 5mo ago
        > I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can virtue signal until the heat death of the universe/until I die, it matters not. I don't have the desire to spend the limited emotional bandwidth on giving a flaming fuck about the world around me. I'm not that arrogant or self-centered to think anyone else cares. “Learned helplessness” himself graced us with his presence.
        cybercatgurrl 5mo ago

dwaite 5mo ago

I disagree as well, and wonder if the OP meant an emotional or ideological stance instead.

johnfn 5mo ago
Yes - this is indeed what I meant, thanks.