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No child deaths definitively linked to Covid shots, FDA says

40 points by ceejayoz 6mo ago

FrankWilhoit 6mo ago
Someone is about to get fired.
- voxadam 6mo ago
  Too bad it won't be RJK Jr.
TacticalCoder 6mo ago
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- ceejayoz 6mo ago
  I like how you omit that this is the House Republicans’ report. “Official” is a big stretch.
- Arodex 5mo ago
  - The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature. - Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events. The report begins by two factually wrong assertions. Also, you know, there isn't just one country in the world. You are literally saying that everyone, from Anders Tegnell to Bolsonaro, is complicit in hiding the "true" origin of the virus.
guilhas 5mo ago
What do they even mean by this? “There’s not a way to be certain, unless we found some specific marker for the vaccine” I imagine they haven't found a "marker" because they haven't looked for one. Also haven't found one for anything else Healthy child takes vaccine / get myocarditis soon after / dies... / vaccine is known to cause myocarditis It's not definitive, but it's probably a better explanation than the rest. Unless the virus or some other condition come forward and confess
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  A few months back they made a big deal about having confirmed a handful of deaths. This is a walk-back. Either way, the safety profile is clear. We gave billions of shots with wonderfully low complication rates, especially versus untreated COVID.
  - KetoManx64 5mo ago
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    - ceejayoz 5mo ago
      How does one determine if they’re in that “majority of people” in advance of getting sick? Most drives in a car don’t result in an accident. Do you disable all the safety features accordingly?
      - KetoManx64 5mo ago
        A super easy one: Step on a scale and see what your BmI is. Or you can get a DEXA scan to see how much visceral fat you have, or buy a over the counter CGM to monitor your blood insulin levels, or go for a run around the block and see how quickly you are out of breath, etc. To go with your car driver analogy, we can equate the metabolic lack of health to a number of beers that a person has before they go for a drive. The more unhealthy/drunk the more dangerous it is for them to go out and do things in the world.
        ceejayoz 5mo ago
        No, those are ways to know if you’re unhealthy. How do you know in advance if you’re one of the minority of “metabolically healthy” people who still get severe COVID? Safe drivers still get in accidents, after all.
        KetoManx64 5mo ago

40 points by ceejayoz 6mo ago

FrankWilhoit 6mo ago

Someone is about to get fired.

voxadam 6mo ago
Too bad it won't be RJK Jr.

TacticalCoder 6mo ago

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ceejayoz 6mo ago
I like how you omit that this is the House Republicans’ report. “Official” is a big stretch.
Arodex 5mo ago
- The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature. - Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events. The report begins by two factually wrong assertions. Also, you know, there isn't just one country in the world. You are literally saying that everyone, from Anders Tegnell to Bolsonaro, is complicit in hiding the "true" origin of the virus.

guilhas 5mo ago

What do they even mean by this? “There’s not a way to be certain, unless we found some specific marker for the vaccine” I imagine they haven't found a "marker" because they haven't looked for one. Also haven't found one for anything else Healthy child takes vaccine / get myocarditis soon after / dies... / vaccine is known to cause myocarditis It's not definitive, but it's probably a better explanation than the rest. Unless the virus or some other condition come forward and confess

ceejayoz 5mo ago
A few months back they made a big deal about having confirmed a handful of deaths. This is a walk-back. Either way, the safety profile is clear. We gave billions of shots with wonderfully low complication rates, especially versus untreated COVID.
- KetoManx64 5mo ago
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  - ceejayoz 5mo ago
    How does one determine if they’re in that “majority of people” in advance of getting sick? Most drives in a car don’t result in an accident. Do you disable all the safety features accordingly?
    - KetoManx64 5mo ago
      A super easy one: Step on a scale and see what your BmI is. Or you can get a DEXA scan to see how much visceral fat you have, or buy a over the counter CGM to monitor your blood insulin levels, or go for a run around the block and see how quickly you are out of breath, etc. To go with your car driver analogy, we can equate the metabolic lack of health to a number of beers that a person has before they go for a drive. The more unhealthy/drunk the more dangerous it is for them to go out and do things in the world.
      - ceejayoz 5mo ago
        No, those are ways to know if you’re unhealthy. How do you know in advance if you’re one of the minority of “metabolically healthy” people who still get severe COVID? Safe drivers still get in accidents, after all.
        KetoManx64 5mo ago