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The value of Claude Code the harness isn't that great. There's a lot of other good harnesses out there.

by wolttam 5mo ago

koolba 5mo ago
Good or better? Curious which would be in either bucket.
- wolttam 5mo ago
  Probably a matter of taste. I prefer the harness I wrote, I don't want to go near Anthropic's bloated mess of a harness with a 10-meter pole.
chandureddyvari 5mo ago
What’s your favourite harness? Is there any benchmarks for harness like LLMs have for swe verified?
- wolttam 5mo ago
  You can check my profile for which one I like most :) I do think there have been efforts to benchmark different harnesses. Personally I'm not going to choose one harness or another based on +/- a few percentage points in a benchmark. I'm going to use one the one that I find the most ergonomic, that isn't too bloated, etc. The models are the primary lever, not the harness.
- Mkengin 5mo ago
  There Seen to be more and more harness benchmarks out there, pretty interesting read: https://neuralnoise.com/2026/harness-bench-wip/ https://neuralnoise.com/2026/harness-bench-wip/
crooked-v 5mo ago
And it gets dragged down by Anthropic actively injecting unhelpful things into prompts without telling users about them (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/58262 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/58262).
rane 5mo ago
I thought so, and then I tried Opencode and Codex and started to appreciate Claude Code a lot more. They've actually done great work with the small details.
- intuxikated 5mo ago
  I actually have't looked back since trying opencode The ability to properly see what the agent is doing in tool calls and subagents is really unmatched, CC strips all reasoning and return values, only displaying tool calls, and you're unable to expand a single subagent, it's expand everything and scroll endlessly or show everything collapsed with basically no info at all (read x files, ran x commands) Just seems like extremely basic features are missing

The value of Claude Code the harness isn't that great. There's a lot of other good harnesses out there.

by wolttam 5mo ago

The value of Claude Code the harness isn't that great. There's a lot of other good harnesses out there.

koolba 5mo ago

Good or better? Curious which would be in either bucket.

wolttam 5mo ago
Probably a matter of taste. I prefer the harness I wrote, I don't want to go near Anthropic's bloated mess of a harness with a 10-meter pole.

chandureddyvari 5mo ago

What’s your favourite harness? Is there any benchmarks for harness like LLMs have for swe verified?

wolttam 5mo ago
You can check my profile for which one I like most :) I do think there have been efforts to benchmark different harnesses. Personally I'm not going to choose one harness or another based on +/- a few percentage points in a benchmark. I'm going to use one the one that I find the most ergonomic, that isn't too bloated, etc. The models are the primary lever, not the harness.
Mkengin 5mo ago
There Seen to be more and more harness benchmarks out there, pretty interesting read: https://neuralnoise.com/2026/harness-bench-wip/ https://neuralnoise.com/2026/harness-bench-wip/

crooked-v 5mo ago

And it gets dragged down by Anthropic actively injecting unhelpful things into prompts without telling users about them (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/58262 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/58262).

rane 5mo ago

I thought so, and then I tried Opencode and Codex and started to appreciate Claude Code a lot more. They've actually done great work with the small details.

intuxikated 5mo ago
I actually have't looked back since trying opencode The ability to properly see what the agent is doing in tool calls and subagents is really unmatched, CC strips all reasoning and return values, only displaying tool calls, and you're unable to expand a single subagent, it's expand everything and scroll endlessly or show everything collapsed with basically no info at all (read x files, ran x commands) Just seems like extremely basic features are missing