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Investigate and imprison the people who are pushing this because of money received from the US.

by opjjf 4mo ago

baggy_trough 4mo ago
For what crime?
- ohyoutravel 4mo ago
  Treason
  - multiplegeorges 4mo ago
    Sedition, technically.
    - baggy_trough 4mo ago
      A referendum is neither of those.
- ecshafer 4mo ago
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- 52-6F-62 4mo ago
  [dead]
- bawolff 4mo ago
  Allegedly they have taken money from americans or maybe russians. It is generally a crime to take foreign money as part of a political campaign.
tclancy 4mo ago
This is truly trolling escaping the Internet. It's by no means the first instance; "The future is already here—it's just not very evenly distributed". The best time to have started taking this seriously was probably October 2015 or something. The next best time is now. These performative fits by thoughtless Adult Children get backed by real money, for purposes mysterious to me, but they seem purposes dark enough it would be nice to have a working system that would investigate deeply and make illustrative examples out of the benefactors. Oh but for a working democracy or a healthy journalism, what might we find? Carve "Cui bono?" on my tombstone so when they plow the place over for tract housing to cram their useful fools into, maybe the rubble will catch a person's eye and make them wonder.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
  > This is truly trolling escaping the Internet The referendum? Or calling for imprisoning people for wrongthink?
  - gmerc 4mo ago
    You misspelled “treason”
    - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
      > You misspelled “treason” Wrongthink (well, technically, crimethink) is canonically treason. Nutters on Reddit calling everything treason isn’t new. In this case, I’m failing to see how someone—who, granted, appears to be a nutter—following a lawful process is treason.
      - gmerc 4mo ago
        “took american money to” is treason.
  - jgon 4mo ago
    "Wrongthink". Lol man, if you think that taking money from a country whose head of state has recently said that they may need to forcibly annex your own country, and then using that money to illegally obtain the personal information of citizens so you can attempt to break your country apart is merely "wrongthink" then you need to completely recalibrate yourself. The really galling thing here is that as an American you would absolutely never tolerate a country like, say, China, supporting, both monetarily and otherwise, a group agitating for California to leave the union. You'd all call that treason loudly and proudly, but now that your country is doing it to someone else suddenly we have to slow-roll this.
    - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
      > you would absolutely never tolerate a country like, say, China, supporting, both monetarily and otherwise, a group agitating for California to leave the union No. But I don’t think we’d put people in jail for it unless they were ready to overthrow the government. (Hell, we didn’t even charge the actual people trying to violently overthrow the government with treason.)
cactusplant7374 4mo ago
I know of two people that moved away from Canada and consider themselves refugees for various reasons. It seems... a little out there. But it is a thing.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
  > it is a thing Anyone can claim refugee status. That doesn’t make them refugees. Being a refugee requires showing persecution that one can’t find relief for within the country’s own system [1]. Given Canada has a functioning court system, the second part of the definition is failed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta...
  - linksnapzz 4mo ago
    Iran also has a functioning court system w/ both qadi & mufti offering opinions.
    - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
      > Iran also has a functioning court system Fair enough, I should have said credible.
      - linksnapzz 4mo ago
        I'm not enough of an expert in 12er Shia fiqh to say how credible they are-but they are there.
  - cactusplant7374 4mo ago
    You misunderstood my comment. The claim is the thing.
- BeetleB 4mo ago
  > But it is a thing. On a per capita basis, 50x more Canadians move to the US than the other way round. It's more than just a thing.

Investigate and imprison the people who are pushing this because of money received from the US.

by opjjf 4mo ago

Investigate and imprison the people who are pushing this because of money received from the US.

baggy_trough 4mo ago

For what crime?

ohyoutravel 4mo ago
Treason
- multiplegeorges 4mo ago
  Sedition, technically.
  - baggy_trough 4mo ago
    A referendum is neither of those.
ecshafer 4mo ago
[flagged]
52-6F-62 4mo ago
[dead]
bawolff 4mo ago
Allegedly they have taken money from americans or maybe russians. It is generally a crime to take foreign money as part of a political campaign.

tclancy 4mo ago

This is truly trolling escaping the Internet. It's by no means the first instance; "The future is already here—it's just not very evenly distributed". The best time to have started taking this seriously was probably October 2015 or something. The next best time is now. These performative fits by thoughtless Adult Children get backed by real money, for purposes mysterious to me, but they seem purposes dark enough it would be nice to have a working system that would investigate deeply and make illustrative examples out of the benefactors. Oh but for a working democracy or a healthy journalism, what might we find? Carve "Cui bono?" on my tombstone so when they plow the place over for tract housing to cram their useful fools into, maybe the rubble will catch a person's eye and make them wonder.

JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
> This is truly trolling escaping the Internet The referendum? Or calling for imprisoning people for wrongthink?
- gmerc 4mo ago
  You misspelled “treason”
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > You misspelled “treason” Wrongthink (well, technically, crimethink) is canonically treason. Nutters on Reddit calling everything treason isn’t new. In this case, I’m failing to see how someone—who, granted, appears to be a nutter—following a lawful process is treason.
    - gmerc 4mo ago
      “took american money to” is treason.
- jgon 4mo ago
  "Wrongthink". Lol man, if you think that taking money from a country whose head of state has recently said that they may need to forcibly annex your own country, and then using that money to illegally obtain the personal information of citizens so you can attempt to break your country apart is merely "wrongthink" then you need to completely recalibrate yourself. The really galling thing here is that as an American you would absolutely never tolerate a country like, say, China, supporting, both monetarily and otherwise, a group agitating for California to leave the union. You'd all call that treason loudly and proudly, but now that your country is doing it to someone else suddenly we have to slow-roll this.
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > you would absolutely never tolerate a country like, say, China, supporting, both monetarily and otherwise, a group agitating for California to leave the union No. But I don’t think we’d put people in jail for it unless they were ready to overthrow the government. (Hell, we didn’t even charge the actual people trying to violently overthrow the government with treason.)

cactusplant7374 4mo ago

I know of two people that moved away from Canada and consider themselves refugees for various reasons. It seems... a little out there. But it is a thing.

JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
> it is a thing Anyone can claim refugee status. That doesn’t make them refugees. Being a refugee requires showing persecution that one can’t find relief for within the country’s own system [1]. Given Canada has a functioning court system, the second part of the definition is failed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta...
- linksnapzz 4mo ago
  Iran also has a functioning court system w/ both qadi & mufti offering opinions.
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > Iran also has a functioning court system Fair enough, I should have said credible.
    - linksnapzz 4mo ago
      I'm not enough of an expert in 12er Shia fiqh to say how credible they are-but they are there.
- cactusplant7374 4mo ago
  You misunderstood my comment. The claim is the thing.
BeetleB 4mo ago
> But it is a thing. On a per capita basis, 50x more Canadians move to the US than the other way round. It's more than just a thing.