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I just use Claude Code and intellij, so I don't understand why so many people complain about Antigravity ditching VS Code, what's the surface not covered by usi

I just use Claude Code and intellij, so I don't understand why so many people complain about Antigravity ditching VS Code, what's the surface not covered by using Antigravity CLI + VS Code (or any other IDE)?

freedomben 5mo ago
I'm not GP, but I am somewhat excited about antigravity CLI. I adopted Gemini CLI early and really liked it, though over time it got dumber and dumber until a point when I realized it was foolish to use it instead of claude/codex. I'm hopefuly that antigravity CLI won't go through that path, but also can't fight a skepticism.
- jeromegv 5mo ago
  I don’t think it’s the cli that was dumber, just the model it was using. They drastically reduced limits on their best model so that’s likely how you got stuck downgrading model and getting worse results.
  - WarmWash 5mo ago
    I'm sensing in reality that behind the scenes there is a difficult trade-off between quantization and usage limits. You can have a "smart" model but poor limits, or good limits and a "dumb" model. This seems very similar to mobile data limits (remember those years?), where there wasn't enough tower bandwidth to serve everyone unlimited data, so telecos were in constant tension between data caps and bandwidth throttling. It wasn't until 5G came along with 100x network capacity that they could finally give everyone "unlimited" data.
- antonvs 5mo ago
  Which plan were you on? Gemini CLI auto-downgrades the model if you run out of tokens on the better models. It gives you stats about the models used at the end of every session.
jeromegv 5mo ago
Gemini cli was open source. Antigravity cli is not. Not at feature parity, missing many features and now we are forced to migrate away from Gemini cli before anti gravity cli is ready.
- surajrmal 5mo ago
  The difference in its ability is immense. Even with less features it makes a lot of sense to switch. It really shows how much the harness matters almost equally to the model.
  - lern_too_spel 5mo ago
    At least one of the missing features is a basic piece of functionality (showing token quota used). Without it, you're pretty much guaranteed to get locked out for a week with no warning.

freedomben 5mo ago

I'm not GP, but I am somewhat excited about antigravity CLI. I adopted Gemini CLI early and really liked it, though over time it got dumber and dumber until a point when I realized it was foolish to use it instead of claude/codex. I'm hopefuly that antigravity CLI won't go through that path, but also can't fight a skepticism.

jeromegv 5mo ago
I don’t think it’s the cli that was dumber, just the model it was using. They drastically reduced limits on their best model so that’s likely how you got stuck downgrading model and getting worse results.
- WarmWash 5mo ago
  I'm sensing in reality that behind the scenes there is a difficult trade-off between quantization and usage limits. You can have a "smart" model but poor limits, or good limits and a "dumb" model. This seems very similar to mobile data limits (remember those years?), where there wasn't enough tower bandwidth to serve everyone unlimited data, so telecos were in constant tension between data caps and bandwidth throttling. It wasn't until 5G came along with 100x network capacity that they could finally give everyone "unlimited" data.
antonvs 5mo ago
Which plan were you on? Gemini CLI auto-downgrades the model if you run out of tokens on the better models. It gives you stats about the models used at the end of every session.

jeromegv 5mo ago

Gemini cli was open source. Antigravity cli is not. Not at feature parity, missing many features and now we are forced to migrate away from Gemini cli before anti gravity cli is ready.

surajrmal 5mo ago
The difference in its ability is immense. Even with less features it makes a lot of sense to switch. It really shows how much the harness matters almost equally to the model.
- lern_too_spel 5mo ago
  At least one of the missing features is a basic piece of functionality (showing token quota used). Without it, you're pretty much guaranteed to get locked out for a week with no warning.