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You entered into an agreement with this school district. They are testing this out on these two schools. If it passes, the district may put them in the other sc

You entered into an agreement with this school district. They are testing this out on these two schools. If it passes, the district may put them in the other schools. She is going to a Magnet school, not a standard public school.

lutusp 14y ago
> You entered into an agreement with this school district. If it's a public school, the agreement cannot include anything that violates a student's civil rights. Under the equal access rules currently in force, the fact that a student chooses to attend a particular school is not a factor -- her civil rights must be protected no matter what choices she makes.
- warmwaffles 14y ago
  True, however she and her parents signed the forms that the school district sent out about the RFID tags and agreed to the terms. Only after the fact did they start to protest it. Why didn't they protest it from the beginning? Anyways, there is a magnet school literally right next to Taft HS that she could apply to that doesn't have the RFID tags. In fact, she is going to a school that is further away from where she lives and she should be going to the magnet school Comm Arts I live in the area that this is talking about. I don't necessarily agree with the RFID tags, but claiming religion is a load of crap.
  - lutusp 14y ago
    > True, however she and her parents signed the forms that the school district sent out about the RFID tags and agreed to the terms. Doesn't matter -- it doesn't matter whether there is a signed agreement, only whether the agreement does or doesn't include provisions that violate civil rights. If this were not so, the South could have gone around and gotten all the poor black people to sign an agreement to attend inferior schools or give up the right to vote. They didn't even try this tactic, because they knew it wouldn't make any difference. The tl;dr: Civil rights can't be signed away.
    - warmwaffles 14y ago
      I understand that, but you also need to realize Jay HS is one of the worst, underfunded schools in the district. They NEED the money from attendance and that is the only way they get money. If the govt. would start rewarding schools money not based on attendance alone, this would be a totally different thing.
      - lutusp 14y ago
        > you also need to realize Jay HS is one of the worst, underfunded schools in the district. They NEED the money from attendance and that is the only way they get money. I'm sure you didn't intend to explain how the school, on financial grounds, would be justified in violating the civil rights of the students. It was surely an oversight.
- philwelch 14y ago
  Pray tell, what civil rights are violated by carrying RFID badges?
  - warmwaffles 14y ago
    He's talking about the fact they are able to track where the students are "roughly" in the school, and that the RFID badges hold some personal information in them. To which, I'm not sure what kind of personally identifying information is on them other than a UUID. All speculation and snake oil
    - philwelch 14y ago
      > He's talking about the fact they are able to track where the students are "roughly" in the school Isn't that exactly what schools have always tried to do? > and that the RFID badges hold some personal information in them Isn't that exactly the information schools have always had?
      - warmwaffles 14y ago
        Yes and yes. I see the issue she's having with the RFID but I also don't understand why she is having such a problem. Her phone tracks her, facebook tracks her, google, etc... it's a problem yes, but I can't do anything about it other than complain. I think the family just wanted to get a quick window of fame and be able to tell people "Ya, we forced the HS to get rid of those RFIDs."
        mcantelon 14y ago
        >Her phone tracks her, facebook tracks her, google, etc... it's a problem yes, but I can't do anything about it other than complain. Noone is forced to use a mobile phone nor Facebook nor Google. >I think the family just wanted to get a quick window of fame and be able to tell people "Ya, we forced the HS to get rid of those RFIDs." Or they could, you know, care about the issues.

lutusp 14y ago

> You entered into an agreement with this school district. If it's a public school, the agreement cannot include anything that violates a student's civil rights. Under the equal access rules currently in force, the fact that a student chooses to attend a particular school is not a factor -- her civil rights must be protected no matter what choices she makes.

warmwaffles 14y ago
True, however she and her parents signed the forms that the school district sent out about the RFID tags and agreed to the terms. Only after the fact did they start to protest it. Why didn't they protest it from the beginning? Anyways, there is a magnet school literally right next to Taft HS that she could apply to that doesn't have the RFID tags. In fact, she is going to a school that is further away from where she lives and she should be going to the magnet school Comm Arts I live in the area that this is talking about. I don't necessarily agree with the RFID tags, but claiming religion is a load of crap.
- lutusp 14y ago
  > True, however she and her parents signed the forms that the school district sent out about the RFID tags and agreed to the terms. Doesn't matter -- it doesn't matter whether there is a signed agreement, only whether the agreement does or doesn't include provisions that violate civil rights. If this were not so, the South could have gone around and gotten all the poor black people to sign an agreement to attend inferior schools or give up the right to vote. They didn't even try this tactic, because they knew it wouldn't make any difference. The tl;dr: Civil rights can't be signed away.
  - warmwaffles 14y ago
    I understand that, but you also need to realize Jay HS is one of the worst, underfunded schools in the district. They NEED the money from attendance and that is the only way they get money. If the govt. would start rewarding schools money not based on attendance alone, this would be a totally different thing.
    - lutusp 14y ago
      > you also need to realize Jay HS is one of the worst, underfunded schools in the district. They NEED the money from attendance and that is the only way they get money. I'm sure you didn't intend to explain how the school, on financial grounds, would be justified in violating the civil rights of the students. It was surely an oversight.
philwelch 14y ago
Pray tell, what civil rights are violated by carrying RFID badges?
- warmwaffles 14y ago
  He's talking about the fact they are able to track where the students are "roughly" in the school, and that the RFID badges hold some personal information in them. To which, I'm not sure what kind of personally identifying information is on them other than a UUID. All speculation and snake oil
  - philwelch 14y ago
    > He's talking about the fact they are able to track where the students are "roughly" in the school Isn't that exactly what schools have always tried to do? > and that the RFID badges hold some personal information in them Isn't that exactly the information schools have always had?
    - warmwaffles 14y ago
      Yes and yes. I see the issue she's having with the RFID but I also don't understand why she is having such a problem. Her phone tracks her, facebook tracks her, google, etc... it's a problem yes, but I can't do anything about it other than complain. I think the family just wanted to get a quick window of fame and be able to tell people "Ya, we forced the HS to get rid of those RFIDs."
      - mcantelon 14y ago
        >Her phone tracks her, facebook tracks her, google, etc... it's a problem yes, but I can't do anything about it other than complain. Noone is forced to use a mobile phone nor Facebook nor Google. >I think the family just wanted to get a quick window of fame and be able to tell people "Ya, we forced the HS to get rid of those RFIDs." Or they could, you know, care about the issues.