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it functioned just fine for the past 50 years. digital manipulation of media had always been possible. americans simply didn't have a society-wide psychosis dur

it functioned just fine for the past 50 years. digital manipulation of media had always been possible. americans simply didn't have a society-wide psychosis during the early days of personal computing and Internet.

sirsinsalot 5mo ago
It took some skill and time before to make anything passable as realistic. Enough skill and time to defeat a teenagers motivation. That's the difference. "make the person in this photo naked. No mistakes" Prompts lowered the bar. Even if you do have to install a local text to image model.
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
  very soon no one will takes these things seriously, And That's A Good Thing. there are, for example, websites that host (among a myriad other such things) style-accurate pictures of every Disney princess being fucked in every way imaginable. 70 years ago something like this might have caused a similar moral panic, but now no one (rightfully) gives a shit. you see a picture of Cinderella with a dick up her ass, you know it wasn't drawn by Disney.
  - cindyllm 5mo ago
    [dead]
  - pjc50 5mo ago
    Cinderella isn't going to complain because she's not a real person. The problem here is making and distributing fakes of specific real people.
    - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
      Bizarrely, Cinderella probably has better protection/rights than real people do. Disney could easily assign a fleet of lawyers to protect their intellectual property and get websites taken down.
  - sirsinsalot 5mo ago
    A fictional character isn't a real teenage girl who feels her life is falling apart because idiots make fake nudes of her to giggle at. Theyre not the same thing and you can't just hand wave away people's pain. You're part of the problem.
    - b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
      cool.
- autoexec 5mo ago
  Does it even matter how realistic someone's fake porn is? Before computers people would cut out peoples faces and paste them onto playboy centerfolds. That sure wasn't perfect, but it didn't stop them from enjoying them enough to go through the trouble. Since perfect or not people aren't going to stop doing what they do, the fact that the fakes have gotten better is only beneficial since it allows for plausible deniability. At this point nobody should trust some random video the same way nobody has been able to trust a random JPG since photoshop became a thing.
  - AlecSchueler 5mo ago
    > Does it even matter how realistic someone's fake porn is? Yes, from a victim impact perspective. > Before computers people would cut out peoples faces and paste them onto playboy centerfolds. That sure wasn't perfect, but it didn't stop them The effort did stop them. The problem wasn't even half as widespread. And those who were doing it were keeping it to themselves, the images weren't being auto-shared to Twitter and the targets tagged. > the fact that the fakes have gotten better is only beneficial [Victim testimony needed] > At this point nobody should trust some random video While there's a qualitative difference in harassment when using media that is either real or fake (clearly or not) the capacity for that media to be used for harassment purposes remains the same.

sirsinsalot 5mo ago

It took some skill and time before to make anything passable as realistic. Enough skill and time to defeat a teenagers motivation. That's the difference. "make the person in this photo naked. No mistakes" Prompts lowered the bar. Even if you do have to install a local text to image model.

b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
very soon no one will takes these things seriously, And That's A Good Thing. there are, for example, websites that host (among a myriad other such things) style-accurate pictures of every Disney princess being fucked in every way imaginable. 70 years ago something like this might have caused a similar moral panic, but now no one (rightfully) gives a shit. you see a picture of Cinderella with a dick up her ass, you know it wasn't drawn by Disney.
- cindyllm 5mo ago
  [dead]
- pjc50 5mo ago
  Cinderella isn't going to complain because she's not a real person. The problem here is making and distributing fakes of specific real people.
  - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
    Bizarrely, Cinderella probably has better protection/rights than real people do. Disney could easily assign a fleet of lawyers to protect their intellectual property and get websites taken down.
- sirsinsalot 5mo ago
  A fictional character isn't a real teenage girl who feels her life is falling apart because idiots make fake nudes of her to giggle at. Theyre not the same thing and you can't just hand wave away people's pain. You're part of the problem.
  - b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
    cool.
autoexec 5mo ago
Does it even matter how realistic someone's fake porn is? Before computers people would cut out peoples faces and paste them onto playboy centerfolds. That sure wasn't perfect, but it didn't stop them from enjoying them enough to go through the trouble. Since perfect or not people aren't going to stop doing what they do, the fact that the fakes have gotten better is only beneficial since it allows for plausible deniability. At this point nobody should trust some random video the same way nobody has been able to trust a random JPG since photoshop became a thing.
- AlecSchueler 5mo ago
  > Does it even matter how realistic someone's fake porn is? Yes, from a victim impact perspective. > Before computers people would cut out peoples faces and paste them onto playboy centerfolds. That sure wasn't perfect, but it didn't stop them The effort did stop them. The problem wasn't even half as widespread. And those who were doing it were keeping it to themselves, the images weren't being auto-shared to Twitter and the targets tagged. > the fact that the fakes have gotten better is only beneficial [Victim testimony needed] > At this point nobody should trust some random video While there's a qualitative difference in harassment when using media that is either real or fake (clearly or not) the capacity for that media to be used for harassment purposes remains the same.