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This would make sense if they were an airline and only need to maximise profits. An artist – even one who really wants to make as much money as they can – still

This would make sense if they were an airline and only need to maximise profits. An artist – even one who really wants to make as much money as they can – still needs to think about other things, like atmosphere (that gig with one very rich person won't be much fun), and happy fans. If she sells all tickets at $10k each then maybe she'd clear the market, but she'd piss off a lot of fans, so maybe there won't be as much demand next time.

lbreakjai 4mo ago
There's a very easy solution. Put the name of the owner on the ticket. Limit the number of tickets per person. Verify the identity before entering the premises. Allow the resale at face value via the organiser's platform. Allow to resell your ticket at face value to a specific person, for the case where the friend who bought the tickets six months ago is suddenly sick. I don't know why this is being made to look like an insurmountable problem. We're talking about multi-billion dollar companies, organising billion dollar tours. > If she sells all tickets at $10k each then maybe she'd clear the market, but she'd piss off a lot of fans If I was conspiracy-minded, I'd say blaming "the scalpers" would be a very convenient way of dodging responsibilities while taking a cut.
- ssl-3 4mo ago
  > Allow to resell your ticket at face value to a specific person, for the case where the friend who bought the tickets six months ago is suddenly sick. This allows scalping. And then, since scalping is not prevented, all that these measures really accomplish is to theatrically increase the burden for everyone else.
  - lbreakjai 4mo ago
    It does not, because you can only resell at face value. There's no profit incentive.
    - ssl-3 4mo ago
      This utopia wherein everyone is completely law-abiding and eager to follow every rule does not exist.
      - lbreakjai 4mo ago
        What utopia? Each person can buy a maximum of 4 tickets. A ticket has a name on it. You can't use it if it's not yours. To change the name on the ticket, you need to go through the official platform, where you can only resell it for at most face value. It's not exactly a project Manhattan level of breakthrough we're talking about here. The incentives to scalp are vastly reduced. Sure, I could buy four tickets and resell three of them, but I would still need to physically go to the venue to walk people in. It just doesn't scale.
        ssl-3 4mo ago
        If I can sell a ticket to a specific person, then I can also set my own price for that ticket. The platform doesn't need to support it, not do the rules and laws. It's very straightforward: The buyer either meets my terms or there is no sale.
        lbreakjai 4mo ago
        Then skip the resale to specific persons, ask for each participant's name at purchase time like for airplane tickets. Problem solved.
        ssl-3 4mo ago
        > Then skip the resale to specific persons, ask for each participant's name at purchase time like for airplane tickets. Problem solved. Awesome. Let's just add the frictions of flying to the concert-going experience. That's a pretty good way to eliminate scalping: Just make it such a pain in the ass to attend that the seats never sell out to begin with. Other than being terrible, this sounds like a great idea!

lbreakjai 4mo ago

There's a very easy solution. Put the name of the owner on the ticket. Limit the number of tickets per person. Verify the identity before entering the premises. Allow the resale at face value via the organiser's platform. Allow to resell your ticket at face value to a specific person, for the case where the friend who bought the tickets six months ago is suddenly sick. I don't know why this is being made to look like an insurmountable problem. We're talking about multi-billion dollar companies, organising billion dollar tours. > If she sells all tickets at $10k each then maybe she'd clear the market, but she'd piss off a lot of fans If I was conspiracy-minded, I'd say blaming "the scalpers" would be a very convenient way of dodging responsibilities while taking a cut.

ssl-3 4mo ago
> Allow to resell your ticket at face value to a specific person, for the case where the friend who bought the tickets six months ago is suddenly sick. This allows scalping. And then, since scalping is not prevented, all that these measures really accomplish is to theatrically increase the burden for everyone else.
- lbreakjai 4mo ago
  It does not, because you can only resell at face value. There's no profit incentive.
  - ssl-3 4mo ago
    This utopia wherein everyone is completely law-abiding and eager to follow every rule does not exist.
    - lbreakjai 4mo ago
      What utopia? Each person can buy a maximum of 4 tickets. A ticket has a name on it. You can't use it if it's not yours. To change the name on the ticket, you need to go through the official platform, where you can only resell it for at most face value. It's not exactly a project Manhattan level of breakthrough we're talking about here. The incentives to scalp are vastly reduced. Sure, I could buy four tickets and resell three of them, but I would still need to physically go to the venue to walk people in. It just doesn't scale.
      - ssl-3 4mo ago
        If I can sell a ticket to a specific person, then I can also set my own price for that ticket. The platform doesn't need to support it, not do the rules and laws. It's very straightforward: The buyer either meets my terms or there is no sale.
        lbreakjai 4mo ago
        Then skip the resale to specific persons, ask for each participant's name at purchase time like for airplane tickets. Problem solved.
        ssl-3 4mo ago
        > Then skip the resale to specific persons, ask for each participant's name at purchase time like for airplane tickets. Problem solved. Awesome. Let's just add the frictions of flying to the concert-going experience. That's a pretty good way to eliminate scalping: Just make it such a pain in the ass to attend that the seats never sell out to begin with. Other than being terrible, this sounds like a great idea!