So you're stating that most PHP programmers are mediocre programmers? This is a very off generalization, the language you use doesn't effect your ability as a

So you're stating that most PHP programmers are mediocre programmers? This is a very off generalization, the language you use doesn't effect your ability as a programmer, what does is the way you use it. Anything you can build in Ruby or Python, you could also build in PHP, it may take longer, or less time, but consider this thought as a rebuttal to your elitism for just one moment: If PHP is such a bad language, then to create equally good programs in PHP instead of Ruby would generally mean that the average PHP programmer is better than the average Ruby programmer. That's an off generalization too, but since we are both throwing around random, baseless comments, there's another.