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I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on. It seems like Go

I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on. It seems like Google is hitting the reset button on the product they call "Antigravity", existing users be damned. Fine, if you've never installed or used the previous version before... but for existing users the "bait and switch" is incredibly disorientating. My take is they saw the market size for a general agentic tool as being larger and more significant than a specialised IDE. It shows a pretty large lack of respect for users in the later group though.

wejick 5mo ago
They could just call it anything else and left the existing user alone. I mean they have gemini CLI, which I would say a better product.
- bmitc 5mo ago
  Gemini CLI is being sunsetted in mid-June and replaced by Antigravity. https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transitioning-gemini-cli-to-antigravity-cli/ https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transi...
  - christoff12 5mo ago
    I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product. Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.
    - wffurr 5mo ago
      In this case it's the usual Google product rug-pull plus the insane rate of AI tool churn.
      - deleted 5mo ago
        [deleted]
    - christoff12 5mo ago
      Belated follow up: I was able to install the agy cli directly without the IDE (perhaps this was a change made in the interim). I ran it last night and it was just fine as a drop-in replacement for my usage. Disappointment averted with minimal effort on my part (it helps that my typical workflow is pretty mundane/close to the defaults).
  - Latitude7973 5mo ago
    I assume this means a CLI tool is no longer covered by a Gemini subscription?
- ctippett 5mo ago
  I think that's what everyone is going to think. Hot take: At least they're ripping the bandaid now instead of stringing users along and eventually abandoning it like they normally do.
- NitpickLawyer 5mo ago
  > I mean they have gemini CLI Uhhh, about that :) Gemini CLI (the open source cli) is being deprecated, and the recommended replacement is Antigravity CLI (which supposedly comes with the new Antigravity, not the IDE). shrug. Surely this will be maintained long term...
  - dgacmu 5mo ago
    Oh, but you can only install the new antigravity CLI by first installing and authenticating via the IDE. Will they make it work headless before the June deadline when they turn off gemini-cli? I guess we'll see... [Edited to add: danielbln below is correct, this appears to just be stale documentation for antigravity-cli, it can be used completely headless now.]
    - danielbln 5mo ago
      Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?
      - dgacmu 5mo ago
        Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."
        danielbln 5mo ago
        Ok, I guess this is outdated then because I did what I said I did.
        dgacmu 5mo ago
        Ah! You're right, I just re-tested on my server and was able to get it to work now. Thank you! Does appear to just be stale documentation.
      - 5mo ago
MichaelZuo 5mo ago
Pissing off the segment of people most likely to take offense and try to take revenge seems pretty dumb. No wonder they are losing massively to Huawei in several markets. Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects.
- StableAlkyne 5mo ago
  > Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects. I don't like Google either, but I don't think this is a fair comparison. It's easy for anyone to beat Google in China when the state has decided to block their servers.
  - MichaelZuo 5mo ago
    They are declining in market share in several countries. Notably multiple ASEAN countries, Russia and Iran (though that is forced), and so on. Edit: Probably the high end non apple market in nearly all African countries too, but idk if there is reliable data for those.
bdhtu 5mo ago
You can't use Antigravity 2.0 on Windows with WSL. There is simply no way to connect to WSL. The agent can't run any Linux commands. Also the Antigravity CLI doesn't remember your credentials in WSL. It asks you to log in every time you run the program. And after 4 chat sessions, my ~/antigravity-server folder now takes up 4 GB.
- kubb 5mo ago
  Should be usable with ssh port forwarding?
- dezgeg 5mo ago
  It only stores credentials in the keyring, so if you have no dbus keyring service running it just silently won't remember them.
qiine 5mo ago
Sometimes I wonder if they even realize they have users...
- dolmen 5mo ago
  Jules is still alive. https://jules.google.com https://jules.google.com
  - oneshtein 5mo ago
    > Jules is not yet available in your region.
  - basch 5mo ago
    Which somewhat ironically can import from github but not directly from aistudio.. It's a little crazy they still depend on microsoft as an intermediate between all their tools.
    - wildrhythms 5mo ago
      This is what happens when your engineering company is run by warring factions of tech illiterate business people rather than engineers.
  - htrp 5mo ago
    >Note on Plan Availability >Paid Jules plans are accessed via a Google AI Plans subscription, which is currently available only for individual Google Accounts (ending in @gmail.com). >We are actively working on providing upgrade paths for other user types. In the meantime, If you are a business power user and need more access to Jules, please fill out this interest form and we will get back to you. I filled out the enterprise form for GWorkspace 18 months ago.
  - aweb 5mo ago
    I trie to use it, it's actually really bad IMO. It's very slow and often completely misunderstands my requirements
  - 4mo ago
elephantum 5mo ago
That's the issue with Google, no specific user group is significant enough for Google to care
- oofbey 5mo ago
  Classic Google problem: nobody gets promoted for maintaining anything. Promotions require doing Something Big. Convince everybody that your new feature is so much better than the old experience that it’s worthy of nuking the old experience, and that’s evidence that your New Thing is more worthy of you getting promoted. That’s how shit like this happens at Google.

wejick 5mo ago

They could just call it anything else and left the existing user alone. I mean they have gemini CLI, which I would say a better product.

bmitc 5mo ago
Gemini CLI is being sunsetted in mid-June and replaced by Antigravity. https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transitioning-gemini-cli-to-antigravity-cli/ https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transi...
- christoff12 5mo ago
  I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product. Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.
  - wffurr 5mo ago
    In this case it's the usual Google product rug-pull plus the insane rate of AI tool churn.
    - deleted 5mo ago
      [deleted]
  - christoff12 5mo ago
    Belated follow up: I was able to install the agy cli directly without the IDE (perhaps this was a change made in the interim). I ran it last night and it was just fine as a drop-in replacement for my usage. Disappointment averted with minimal effort on my part (it helps that my typical workflow is pretty mundane/close to the defaults).
- Latitude7973 5mo ago
  I assume this means a CLI tool is no longer covered by a Gemini subscription?
ctippett 5mo ago
I think that's what everyone is going to think. Hot take: At least they're ripping the bandaid now instead of stringing users along and eventually abandoning it like they normally do.
NitpickLawyer 5mo ago
> I mean they have gemini CLI Uhhh, about that :) Gemini CLI (the open source cli) is being deprecated, and the recommended replacement is Antigravity CLI (which supposedly comes with the new Antigravity, not the IDE). shrug. Surely this will be maintained long term...
- dgacmu 5mo ago
  Oh, but you can only install the new antigravity CLI by first installing and authenticating via the IDE. Will they make it work headless before the June deadline when they turn off gemini-cli? I guess we'll see... [Edited to add: danielbln below is correct, this appears to just be stale documentation for antigravity-cli, it can be used completely headless now.]
  - danielbln 5mo ago
    Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?
    - dgacmu 5mo ago
      Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."
      - danielbln 5mo ago
        Ok, I guess this is outdated then because I did what I said I did.
        dgacmu 5mo ago
        Ah! You're right, I just re-tested on my server and was able to get it to work now. Thank you! Does appear to just be stale documentation.
    - 5mo ago

MichaelZuo 5mo ago

Pissing off the segment of people most likely to take offense and try to take revenge seems pretty dumb. No wonder they are losing massively to Huawei in several markets. Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects.

StableAlkyne 5mo ago
> Mobile marketshare is probably an indicator of some kind of their future prospects. I don't like Google either, but I don't think this is a fair comparison. It's easy for anyone to beat Google in China when the state has decided to block their servers.
- MichaelZuo 5mo ago
  They are declining in market share in several countries. Notably multiple ASEAN countries, Russia and Iran (though that is forced), and so on. Edit: Probably the high end non apple market in nearly all African countries too, but idk if there is reliable data for those.

bdhtu 5mo ago

You can't use Antigravity 2.0 on Windows with WSL. There is simply no way to connect to WSL. The agent can't run any Linux commands. Also the Antigravity CLI doesn't remember your credentials in WSL. It asks you to log in every time you run the program. And after 4 chat sessions, my ~/antigravity-server folder now takes up 4 GB.

kubb 5mo ago
Should be usable with ssh port forwarding?
dezgeg 5mo ago
It only stores credentials in the keyring, so if you have no dbus keyring service running it just silently won't remember them.

qiine 5mo ago

Sometimes I wonder if they even realize they have users...

dolmen 5mo ago
Jules is still alive. https://jules.google.com https://jules.google.com
- oneshtein 5mo ago
  > Jules is not yet available in your region.
- basch 5mo ago
  Which somewhat ironically can import from github but not directly from aistudio.. It's a little crazy they still depend on microsoft as an intermediate between all their tools.
  - wildrhythms 5mo ago
    This is what happens when your engineering company is run by warring factions of tech illiterate business people rather than engineers.
- htrp 5mo ago
  >Note on Plan Availability >Paid Jules plans are accessed via a Google AI Plans subscription, which is currently available only for individual Google Accounts (ending in @gmail.com). >We are actively working on providing upgrade paths for other user types. In the meantime, If you are a business power user and need more access to Jules, please fill out this interest form and we will get back to you. I filled out the enterprise form for GWorkspace 18 months ago.
- aweb 5mo ago
  I trie to use it, it's actually really bad IMO. It's very slow and often completely misunderstands my requirements
- 4mo ago

elephantum 5mo ago

That's the issue with Google, no specific user group is significant enough for Google to care

oofbey 5mo ago
Classic Google problem: nobody gets promoted for maintaining anything. Promotions require doing Something Big. Convince everybody that your new feature is so much better than the old experience that it’s worthy of nuking the old experience, and that’s evidence that your New Thing is more worthy of you getting promoted. That’s how shit like this happens at Google.