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If a single car manufacturer decides to capture license plate data from their customers ' cars' cameras, then we're back where we started.
by zulux 5mo ago
If a single car manufacturer decides to capture license plate data from their customers ' cars' cameras, then we're back where we started.
- ortusdux 5mo agoMany states already ban the private collection of license plate data.
- xbar 5mo agoI did not know that. I do wish I lived in one.
- tptacek 5mo agoWhich states are those? I'd like to read the statutes.
- EvanAnderson 5mo agoThere's a nice list here with references to statutes: https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-license-plate-readers-state-statutes https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-...
- tptacek 5mo agoJust so we're clear, across all these statutes, the term "private" means "for private use". State and local governments can engage private firms to collect data in all of them.
- EvanAnderson 5mo agoI wonder how this figures in with states that don't permit any ALPR use by non-law enforcement. Presumably in those localities private entities can't collect ALPR data on behalf of law enforcement. This page has some more background (and the most amusing map legend I've seen in awhile): https://repo.buzz/lpr/alpr-legality-for-all-50-states/ https://repo.buzz/lpr/alpr-legality-for-all-50-states/
- ortusdux 5mo agohttps://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-license-plate-readers-state-statutes https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-... A friend entertained the idea of a startup focused on a social dashcam site, where users can upload clips of bad drivers tagged with their license plate number, and smart dashcams can alert to bad drivers in real time. They got as far as asking a lawyer before it fell apart.
- chankstein38 5mo agoI'm glad they did the research on this lol I thought about this a decade ago when I was doing a lot of driving and always thought it'd be something I'd explore. Good to know it's against the law
- emptybits 5mo agoYikes. This smells a bit like Stasi-style surveillance. Unofficially encouraged by authorities. Rewards or social pressure or ideology turned a significant % of East Germans into Inoffizieller Mitarbeiters ("unofficial collaborators" or informants). Bad drivers today. And then ...
- throwaway85825 5mo agoThe point of the stasi collaborators was to undermine the targets personal relationships and isolate them because of the fear that they might be an informant. Publicly posting the behavior or unaffiliated parties is nothing like the stasi.
- emptybits 5mo agoRegardless of the official point of Stasi collaborators, what they did was contribute to millions of government surveillance files on fellow citizens. The similarity to a social network of public surveillance is the unpaid, unvetted, untrained manner, of collection with questionable motivation, be it social or political or simply anger. Interestingly, the contributors may also be profiling themselves as able to and willing to surveil fellow citizens, should the opportunity arise.
- tokai 5mo agoOne just needs to store personal data on license plates then. Handy.
- jrm4 5mo agoNot at all, even if the data collection is exactly the same. "Where the authority comes from" matters a lot, probably much more than the actual collection itself.
- IAmBroom 5mo agoStrongly disagree. The existence of such a collection is a loaded gun for police abuse. It doesn't even require mission creep; simply sifting through the ream of data under an actual warrant "coincidentally" looking for a different POI is going to happen.