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My wife is a former journalist and was beginning her career when the web began to take off. All the old editors and reporters in her industry blew off the Inter

by chasd00 5mo ago

My wife is a former journalist and was beginning her career when the web began to take off. All the old editors and reporters in her industry blew off the Internet, blogs, and web publishing in general. They thought no one will ever quit buying papers, it was a staple of modern life! She tried to clue them in but hit a brick wall ever time. I feel like history is repeating. I use AI regularly, where it works it works very well for me. I've helped two people now who are not developers get started putting things together using claudecode. Nothing earth shattering, some dashboards of stock prices and an html clickthrough to pick a college backed by a bunch of spreadsheets. They're having a ball and learning a lot. I'm not fightning it, just learning where it works and where it doesn't and teaching others the same. /I'm 50 and have been in tech professionally since i was 20 so have been around this block once or twice

tiahura 5mo ago
50, lawyer, and it has completely revolutionized my workflow. Just shake my head at the denialism.
- justonepost2 5mo ago
  How about when you’re 53 and unemployed on subsistence UBI?
  - pepperoni_pizza 5mo ago
    There will be no UBI.
    - justonepost2 5mo ago
      Probably correct :)
  - marris 5mo ago
    I will do the pro-social thing of wishing that resources were more scarce so that the resources I hold were worth more.
- beej71 5mo ago
  Do we really need lawyers? They're very expensive compared to LLMs.
echelon 5mo ago
Your wife is right. History is repeating itself. And not even for the first time. Horse carriage drivers -> Cars Print media -> Internet Drafting -> CAD Music -> Electronic music, DAWs Film photography -> Digital Traditional film special effects -> CGI Hollywood nepotism -> YouTube / TikTok / Creator economy (there are more millionaire creators now than movie stars) In each of these cases, there was a subset of people that did the previous thing that hated on the people doing the new thing. They had every opportunity to adapt, but chose not to. They thumb their nose at it as everyone else jumps on board. This time around, it isn't just practitioners hating on it. The internet has enabled a bunch of cling-on performative folks that aren't even artists, engineers, etc. that love to dog pile onto the hate. It's really funny because I've shot lots of films over the last few decades. When people criticize my AI films, I ask them what they've made. Not only will a lot of them proudly tell you they've never made anything, they'll then double down. They'll say that if they were to hypothetically make something (which they won't), it would be using the old tools and that I should be ashamed of myself for using AI. Despite the fact that I have years of experience using the tools they're describing to me. I don't even get it. Not even putting in the effort to try, yet telling me that my enormous wealth of experience is wrong and that I'm unethical and my creative output is "worthless". It's some kind of sick comedy.
- worldsavior 5mo ago
  What is the transition now? Science and whatever someone with a computer can create -> AI prompting?
  - metaltyphoon 5mo ago
    Thinking -> Pay something else (AI) to "think" for you
    - echelon 5mo ago
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      - 5mo ago
otabdeveloper4 5mo ago
[flagged]
- virgildotcodes 5mo ago
  > Nobody knows where it works A large percentage of code being written today is AI generated. If none of it worked it wouldn’t be so. > This is where it definitely does not work. The person said it’s clearly working for their friends’ purposes. That means it works.
  - otabdeveloper4 5mo ago
    > A large percentage of code being written today is $TOOL generated. This has been true for the last 60 years. Generating more technical debt is never a difficult problem in software development.
watwut 5mo ago
Internet caused loss of jobs in journalism and also consolidation of power. There are few billionaire owners and that is it. Small independent journalism as such basically stopped to exist - it was replaced by basically hot takes. Low key institutional fact checking does not exist anymore, local news dont exist anymore. So, it would be entirely correct for someone back then to hate the changes and say it will destroy most of journalism. Because it did.
- logicchains 5mo ago
  >Internet caused loss of jobs in journalism and also consolidation of power. This is completely false; compare reporting on the initiation of the Iraq war vs the recent Iran war. Before the internet the flow of information was more centralized and heavily controlled.
  - Guthwine 5mo ago
    I think there's a difference between 'the flow of information' and 'journalism'. The journalism/newspaper industry is indisputably smaller than it was 20 years ago and the newspapers that are left are all being consolidated into huge corporations with little to no ties to local communities.
  - bonesss 5mo ago
    Before the internet there were competing regulatory and commercial and cultural forces keeping The News the news. Decentralized uncontrolled flow can also be seen as free rein for select power players who can manipulate the system. It changes, but not necessarily positively, how media power consolidates. And without scrutiny or national corrective pressure, that consolidation of power creates a very different perceived media system than is experienced. The combined Senate report on the 2016 election interference from Russia — anti-both sides, lying to both sides and claiming it was the other — should have triggered a strict and meaningful reaction. Now we are in a spot where our kids are being mainlined Al Jazeera and Russian Times propaganda filtered only through uninformed useful idiots in short form video while they do their makeup or emulate Joe Rogans podcast. It’s pay for play media, with no scrutiny, bothers make it easy to heat, juice, or manipulate chosen content, hosts, and themes. Power consolidation at the local/national level prevented it at the global level. At the global level those power structures move around axes we can no longer even name in polite company, and have fully corrupted the political discourse.
d0liver 5mo ago
Getting people into coding is both cool and also not specific to AI.
- chasd00 5mo ago
  yes i agree, but keep in mind they're not getting into coding. They don't have the time for that, they just want to get something to work for a need they have. These two aren't building control systems for a nuclear reactor so don't panic, they're just getting something to work for themselves. Even the most simple use case is very empowering for them.

by chasd00 5mo ago

tiahura 5mo ago

50, lawyer, and it has completely revolutionized my workflow. Just shake my head at the denialism.

justonepost2 5mo ago
How about when you’re 53 and unemployed on subsistence UBI?
- pepperoni_pizza 5mo ago
  There will be no UBI.
  - justonepost2 5mo ago
    Probably correct :)
- marris 5mo ago
  I will do the pro-social thing of wishing that resources were more scarce so that the resources I hold were worth more.
beej71 5mo ago
Do we really need lawyers? They're very expensive compared to LLMs.

echelon 5mo ago

Your wife is right. History is repeating itself. And not even for the first time. Horse carriage drivers -> Cars Print media -> Internet Drafting -> CAD Music -> Electronic music, DAWs Film photography -> Digital Traditional film special effects -> CGI Hollywood nepotism -> YouTube / TikTok / Creator economy (there are more millionaire creators now than movie stars) In each of these cases, there was a subset of people that did the previous thing that hated on the people doing the new thing. They had every opportunity to adapt, but chose not to. They thumb their nose at it as everyone else jumps on board. This time around, it isn't just practitioners hating on it. The internet has enabled a bunch of cling-on performative folks that aren't even artists, engineers, etc. that love to dog pile onto the hate. It's really funny because I've shot lots of films over the last few decades. When people criticize my AI films, I ask them what they've made. Not only will a lot of them proudly tell you they've never made anything, they'll then double down. They'll say that if they were to hypothetically make something (which they won't), it would be using the old tools and that I should be ashamed of myself for using AI. Despite the fact that I have years of experience using the tools they're describing to me. I don't even get it. Not even putting in the effort to try, yet telling me that my enormous wealth of experience is wrong and that I'm unethical and my creative output is "worthless". It's some kind of sick comedy.

worldsavior 5mo ago
What is the transition now? Science and whatever someone with a computer can create -> AI prompting?
- metaltyphoon 5mo ago
  Thinking -> Pay something else (AI) to "think" for you
  - echelon 5mo ago
    [flagged]
    - 5mo ago

otabdeveloper4 5mo ago

[flagged]

virgildotcodes 5mo ago
> Nobody knows where it works A large percentage of code being written today is AI generated. If none of it worked it wouldn’t be so. > This is where it definitely does not work. The person said it’s clearly working for their friends’ purposes. That means it works.
- otabdeveloper4 5mo ago
  > A large percentage of code being written today is $TOOL generated. This has been true for the last 60 years. Generating more technical debt is never a difficult problem in software development.

watwut 5mo ago

Internet caused loss of jobs in journalism and also consolidation of power. There are few billionaire owners and that is it. Small independent journalism as such basically stopped to exist - it was replaced by basically hot takes. Low key institutional fact checking does not exist anymore, local news dont exist anymore. So, it would be entirely correct for someone back then to hate the changes and say it will destroy most of journalism. Because it did.

logicchains 5mo ago
>Internet caused loss of jobs in journalism and also consolidation of power. This is completely false; compare reporting on the initiation of the Iraq war vs the recent Iran war. Before the internet the flow of information was more centralized and heavily controlled.
- Guthwine 5mo ago
  I think there's a difference between 'the flow of information' and 'journalism'. The journalism/newspaper industry is indisputably smaller than it was 20 years ago and the newspapers that are left are all being consolidated into huge corporations with little to no ties to local communities.
- bonesss 5mo ago
  Before the internet there were competing regulatory and commercial and cultural forces keeping The News the news. Decentralized uncontrolled flow can also be seen as free rein for select power players who can manipulate the system. It changes, but not necessarily positively, how media power consolidates. And without scrutiny or national corrective pressure, that consolidation of power creates a very different perceived media system than is experienced. The combined Senate report on the 2016 election interference from Russia — anti-both sides, lying to both sides and claiming it was the other — should have triggered a strict and meaningful reaction. Now we are in a spot where our kids are being mainlined Al Jazeera and Russian Times propaganda filtered only through uninformed useful idiots in short form video while they do their makeup or emulate Joe Rogans podcast. It’s pay for play media, with no scrutiny, bothers make it easy to heat, juice, or manipulate chosen content, hosts, and themes. Power consolidation at the local/national level prevented it at the global level. At the global level those power structures move around axes we can no longer even name in polite company, and have fully corrupted the political discourse.

d0liver 5mo ago

Getting people into coding is both cool and also not specific to AI.

chasd00 5mo ago
yes i agree, but keep in mind they're not getting into coding. They don't have the time for that, they just want to get something to work for a need they have. These two aren't building control systems for a nuclear reactor so don't panic, they're just getting something to work for themselves. Even the most simple use case is very empowering for them.