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source code is apparently* available to audit: https://vivaldi.com/source https://vivaldi.com/source * on my phone, can’t inspect the tars

brnt 5mo ago
Tarballs every 2 months, and we know these don't give you the Vivaldi browser as they supply it. I don't trust them one bit. There was that telemetry analysis that showed Vivaldi as a very noisy browser.
- dijksterhuis 5mo ago
  > we know these don't give you the Vivaldi browser as they supply it. how so? how do you know this?
  - ekianjo 5mo ago
    Probably because they update the browser way more often than that
    - dijksterhuis 5mo ago
      so it’s not a perfect solution :shrugs: i’ll take imperfect over nothing
  - brnt 5mo ago
    Because they are open about including closed parts. Its not a FLOSS browser.
  - pamcake 5mo ago
    You can test this locally yourself with mitmproxy, opensnitch, or whatever. You can try building the (supposedly) open-source apps you use from source. Everyone opining here should MitM themselves every now and then. If not for your own security then maybe to make sure you're not participating in psyop when opining online and resharing hearsay or old truisms.
- yard2010 5mo ago
  In comparison to Google Chrome?
  - deleted 5mo ago
    [deleted]
  - zamadatix 5mo ago
    The difference is Chromium feels like Chrome if that's what you want to use and trust, it does not feel like Vivaldi and that's basically all that's provided here.
mossTechnician 5mo ago
Confusingly, that page only provides the changes to the Google Chromium source that allows their UI to run. (I'm not sure it would be easy to discern this without already knowing the source is not fully open.) https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/ https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-sou...
- dismalaf 5mo ago
  https://github.com/ric2b/Vivaldi-browser https://github.com/ric2b/Vivaldi-browser Someone mirrored it.

brnt 5mo ago

Tarballs every 2 months, and we know these don't give you the Vivaldi browser as they supply it. I don't trust them one bit. There was that telemetry analysis that showed Vivaldi as a very noisy browser.

dijksterhuis 5mo ago
> we know these don't give you the Vivaldi browser as they supply it. how so? how do you know this?
- ekianjo 5mo ago
  Probably because they update the browser way more often than that
  - dijksterhuis 5mo ago
    so it’s not a perfect solution :shrugs: i’ll take imperfect over nothing
- brnt 5mo ago
  Because they are open about including closed parts. Its not a FLOSS browser.
- pamcake 5mo ago
  You can test this locally yourself with mitmproxy, opensnitch, or whatever. You can try building the (supposedly) open-source apps you use from source. Everyone opining here should MitM themselves every now and then. If not for your own security then maybe to make sure you're not participating in psyop when opining online and resharing hearsay or old truisms.
yard2010 5mo ago
In comparison to Google Chrome?
- deleted 5mo ago
  [deleted]
- zamadatix 5mo ago
  The difference is Chromium feels like Chrome if that's what you want to use and trust, it does not feel like Vivaldi and that's basically all that's provided here.

mossTechnician 5mo ago

Confusingly, that page only provides the changes to the Google Chromium source that allows their UI to run. (I'm not sure it would be easy to discern this without already knowing the source is not fully open.) https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/ https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-sou...

dismalaf 5mo ago
https://github.com/ric2b/Vivaldi-browser https://github.com/ric2b/Vivaldi-browser Someone mirrored it.