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So, this project consists of a ~175 line README and a ~500 line Python program that glues yt-dlp and Kroko together. Neat. I guess if it encourages you to inst

by spudlyo 5mo ago

So, this project consists of a ~175 line README and a ~500 line Python program that glues yt-dlp and Kroko together. Neat. I guess if it encourages you to install and figure out how to use ffmpeg, yt-dlp, kroko, numpy, and onnx that's a good thing. Sometimes just knowing a thing is possible is a huge benefit.

mrkn1 5mo ago
thank you. You nailed the actual value, that's right. The real win is just knowing you can do this on a laptop CPU, offline, no GPU or cloud bill. There are tiny done-for-you details, like rescaling token timestamps back to real time after the atempo speedup so --timestamps doesn't lie to you, but they are minor.
- mscdex 5mo ago
  Why the choice of Kroko over something like parakeet-tdt-0.6b-v3, which is also faster than realtime on CPU?
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  - nshm 5mo ago
    Kroko models are more accurate and their size is just a hundred megabytes compared to parakeet (2.5 gigabytes in default fp32)
    - mscdex 5mo ago
      Do you have a link to results confirming this? Kroko does not seem to be on the Open ASR Leaderboard. Parakeet has an average WER of 6.32 across several common datasets.
      - mrkn1 5mo ago
        Kroko's website says benchmarks aren't formalized yet. FWIW, this url says 5% WER for English [0]. though it doesn't specify the dataset, so not directly comparable to Parakeet's 6.32 on the Open ASR Leaderboard Best way to judge is to try it on your own audio [0] https://huggingface.co/hudaiapa88/sherpa-stt-onnx https://huggingface.co/hudaiapa88/sherpa-stt-onnx
iririririr 5mo ago
I see the value as a centralized anti-content-blocker. This repo is now a good way to centralize hacks around the sure-to-come blockers those platforms will add to prevent download. Just like uBlockOrigin was a way to centralize all the "just run this greasemonkey script" comments, I can see this getting a huge following for people who really value transcriptions.
- mrkn1 5mo ago
  I appreciate the perspective! higher ceiling than I'd put on it, but if it gets there awesome. PRs welcome!

by spudlyo 5mo ago

mrkn1 5mo ago

thank you. You nailed the actual value, that's right. The real win is just knowing you can do this on a laptop CPU, offline, no GPU or cloud bill. There are tiny done-for-you details, like rescaling token timestamps back to real time after the atempo speedup so --timestamps doesn't lie to you, but they are minor.

mscdex 5mo ago
Why the choice of Kroko over something like parakeet-tdt-0.6b-v3, which is also faster than realtime on CPU?
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- nshm 5mo ago
  Kroko models are more accurate and their size is just a hundred megabytes compared to parakeet (2.5 gigabytes in default fp32)
  - mscdex 5mo ago
    Do you have a link to results confirming this? Kroko does not seem to be on the Open ASR Leaderboard. Parakeet has an average WER of 6.32 across several common datasets.
    - mrkn1 5mo ago
      Kroko's website says benchmarks aren't formalized yet. FWIW, this url says 5% WER for English [0]. though it doesn't specify the dataset, so not directly comparable to Parakeet's 6.32 on the Open ASR Leaderboard Best way to judge is to try it on your own audio [0] https://huggingface.co/hudaiapa88/sherpa-stt-onnx https://huggingface.co/hudaiapa88/sherpa-stt-onnx

iririririr 5mo ago

I see the value as a centralized anti-content-blocker. This repo is now a good way to centralize hacks around the sure-to-come blockers those platforms will add to prevent download. Just like uBlockOrigin was a way to centralize all the "just run this greasemonkey script" comments, I can see this getting a huge following for people who really value transcriptions.

mrkn1 5mo ago
I appreciate the perspective! higher ceiling than I'd put on it, but if it gets there awesome. PRs welcome!