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What are you talking about? Injury rate at Starbase (Brownsville) was 6x higher than industry average in 2022 [1]. Furthermore, you have gotten the burden of p

by Veserv 5mo ago

What are you talking about? Injury rate at Starbase (Brownsville) was 6x higher than industry average in 2022 [1]. Furthermore, you have gotten the burden of proof backwards. The default presumption is non-safety. The burden of proof is on insiders (who have all the access) to robustly demonstrate in a clear and convincing manner that things are safe, not on outsiders (who only have limited access) to demonstrate in a clear and convincing manner that things are dangerous. So, please present your evidence that their injury or fatality rate is normal. Absence of evidence defaults to your claim it is safe being unsupported. edit: codingdave comment has a more recent link that also determines 2023 and 2024 also had injury rates multiple times higher than industry average. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214074 [1] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-m...

dolphinscorpion 5mo ago
>> What are you talking about? Injury rate at Starbase (Brownsville) was 6x higher than industry average in 2022 That's a sacrifice Elon is willing to make
NetMageSCW 5mo ago
What industry is being compared, and how does that compare to what SpaceX is actually doing?
- NamTaf 5mo ago
  Here you go: https://www.bls.gov/web/osh/table-1-industry-rates-national.htm https://www.bls.gov/web/osh/table-1-industry-rates-national.... Mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction: 1.2 Coal mining: 3.1 Heavy and civil engineering construction: 1.8 Animal slaughtering and processing: 3.2 Wood product manufacturing (inc. sawmills): 4.2 Foundries: 5.1 Aerospace product and parts manufacturing: 1.6 Rail transportation: 3.4 Judging solely by the aforementioned linked data, at 4.8, Brownsville should be shut down by management to do a safety intervention. McGregor and Hawthorne should be under the limelight, too. Redmond and CC seem good.

by Veserv 5mo ago

dolphinscorpion 5mo ago

>> What are you talking about? Injury rate at Starbase (Brownsville) was 6x higher than industry average in 2022 That's a sacrifice Elon is willing to make

NetMageSCW 5mo ago

What industry is being compared, and how does that compare to what SpaceX is actually doing?

NamTaf 5mo ago
Here you go: https://www.bls.gov/web/osh/table-1-industry-rates-national.htm https://www.bls.gov/web/osh/table-1-industry-rates-national.... Mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction: 1.2 Coal mining: 3.1 Heavy and civil engineering construction: 1.8 Animal slaughtering and processing: 3.2 Wood product manufacturing (inc. sawmills): 4.2 Foundries: 5.1 Aerospace product and parts manufacturing: 1.6 Rail transportation: 3.4 Judging solely by the aforementioned linked data, at 4.8, Brownsville should be shut down by management to do a safety intervention. McGregor and Hawthorne should be under the limelight, too. Redmond and CC seem good.