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This makes me feel physically ill. It's like something straight out of a sci-fi dystopia, how did this get approved? Who determined that reinjecting biological

This makes me feel physically ill. It's like something straight out of a sci-fi dystopia, how did this get approved? Who determined that reinjecting biological activity into a human brain is definitely not some form of reanimation? If they're using heavy sedation to prevent electrical activity, is that not tacit admission they're not 100% sure that consciousness might return otherwise? How did this pass ethics review, or did they even bother?

DontBreakAlex 4mo ago
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- wanoir 4mo ago
  This is an interesting point I think for direct comparison, the way of re-animating the brain described in the article would need to be attempted on the cardiac arrest patient as well so as to be sure it isn’t a “revival”-capable method Might already be an obvious answer to practitioners in the field
  - DontBreakAlex 4mo ago
    My understanding is that after a few minutes without oxygen, the chemistry inside your brain is "fucked up" and even if you get oxygen back it's gone, you're already a vegetable. I like to think that "the state of the machine is gone" but I'm not a doctor
    - wanoir 4mo ago
      > even if you get oxygen back it's gone, you're already a vegetable I think that's the part that might get people though. Since a comatose brain is not necessarily fully gone So I guess the question is what differentiates a comatose brain from one that is no longer capable of consciousness?
- tomhow 4mo ago
  Please don't fulminate on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
willis936 4mo ago
Approved? Ethics review? This is a private company. I was shocked when NYT Daily casually mentioned this exact behavior at Altos last week and just laughed it off. Like what is funny about making infinite torture machines because billionaires want to live forever?

DontBreakAlex 4mo ago

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wanoir 4mo ago
This is an interesting point I think for direct comparison, the way of re-animating the brain described in the article would need to be attempted on the cardiac arrest patient as well so as to be sure it isn’t a “revival”-capable method Might already be an obvious answer to practitioners in the field
- DontBreakAlex 4mo ago
  My understanding is that after a few minutes without oxygen, the chemistry inside your brain is "fucked up" and even if you get oxygen back it's gone, you're already a vegetable. I like to think that "the state of the machine is gone" but I'm not a doctor
  - wanoir 4mo ago
    > even if you get oxygen back it's gone, you're already a vegetable I think that's the part that might get people though. Since a comatose brain is not necessarily fully gone So I guess the question is what differentiates a comatose brain from one that is no longer capable of consciousness?
tomhow 4mo ago
Please don't fulminate on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

willis936 4mo ago

Approved? Ethics review? This is a private company. I was shocked when NYT Daily casually mentioned this exact behavior at Altos last week and just laughed it off. Like what is funny about making infinite torture machines because billionaires want to live forever?