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I will be removing my organ donor status. This is horrifying.

by abtinf 5mo ago

pavel_lishin 5mo ago
It looks like the families have to agree to do this, before your brain can be donated: > Bexorg obtains brains in partnership with organizations that procure donated organs for transplantation, and Vrselja says once families understand the company’s process and goals, their response is overwhelmingly positive.
- smeggysmeg 5mo ago
  Until we find out otherwise. There have been multiple organ harvesting scandals lately. Informed consent has become a marketing concept, no longer a reality.
  - tyre 5mo ago
    Citation required. Specifically for a western country happening at any notable scale via organ donors.
    - Bratmon 5mo ago
      Citation: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/us/kentucky-organ-donations.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/us/kentucky-organ-donatio... Organ harvesting of living patients hasn't fully scaled up as a practice yet, but it's definitely a major source of income for some rural hospitals.
      - aceofspades19 5mo ago
        The claim was there was multiple "organ harvesting scandals". Upon reading, it seems like the system worked, the doctors refused to retrieve the organs because the patient showed signs of life. It also looks like they have worked to put in place stricter protocols for organ retrieval since then. I would say accidentally mistaking the patient is dead in any case is hardly the same as purposefully harvesting the organs from people they know are alive to get paid. The article does not state any evidence to suggest they are doing this. There is obviously going to be some pressure to make a decision to retrieve the organs in the interest of not wasting something that could save another's life as there is a limited time frame where these organs can be viable. There is a huge distinction between that and going to patients that have no doubt they are alive and harvesting their organs.
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- dnnddidiej 5mo ago
  Can't the donor stipulate take anything but the brain?
JimTheMan 5mo ago
I highly highly doubt that by consenting to be an organ donor you are consenting to this. Unless you live in some incredibly lawless country? Organ donation is so very sensitive, and those who use the service are so aware of the sensitivities I think that you'd be insane to have such a reaction to this media piece. In fact, I'll go one further. I have serious doubts you were ever an organ donor at all.
- abtinf 5mo ago
  Your doubts are solidly founded; I can confirm I am not yet dead and my organs have not yet been donated.
  - subscribed 5mo ago
    You wouldn't know if we simulated you well enough.
  - JimTheMan 5mo ago
    No worries. When you die, please let me know whether they are donated or not. :p

I will be removing my organ donor status. This is horrifying.

by abtinf 5mo ago

I will be removing my organ donor status. This is horrifying.

It looks like the families have to agree to do this, before your brain can be donated: > Bexorg obtains brains in partnership with organizations that procure donated organs for transplantation, and Vrselja says once families understand the company’s process and goals, their response is overwhelmingly positive.

smeggysmeg 5mo ago
Until we find out otherwise. There have been multiple organ harvesting scandals lately. Informed consent has become a marketing concept, no longer a reality.
- tyre 5mo ago
  Citation required. Specifically for a western country happening at any notable scale via organ donors.
  - Bratmon 5mo ago
    Citation: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/us/kentucky-organ-donations.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/us/kentucky-organ-donatio... Organ harvesting of living patients hasn't fully scaled up as a practice yet, but it's definitely a major source of income for some rural hospitals.
    - aceofspades19 5mo ago
      The claim was there was multiple "organ harvesting scandals". Upon reading, it seems like the system worked, the doctors refused to retrieve the organs because the patient showed signs of life. It also looks like they have worked to put in place stricter protocols for organ retrieval since then. I would say accidentally mistaking the patient is dead in any case is hardly the same as purposefully harvesting the organs from people they know are alive to get paid. The article does not state any evidence to suggest they are doing this. There is obviously going to be some pressure to make a decision to retrieve the organs in the interest of not wasting something that could save another's life as there is a limited time frame where these organs can be viable. There is a huge distinction between that and going to patients that have no doubt they are alive and harvesting their organs.
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dnnddidiej 5mo ago
Can't the donor stipulate take anything but the brain?

JimTheMan 5mo ago

I highly highly doubt that by consenting to be an organ donor you are consenting to this. Unless you live in some incredibly lawless country? Organ donation is so very sensitive, and those who use the service are so aware of the sensitivities I think that you'd be insane to have such a reaction to this media piece. In fact, I'll go one further. I have serious doubts you were ever an organ donor at all.

abtinf 5mo ago
Your doubts are solidly founded; I can confirm I am not yet dead and my organs have not yet been donated.
- subscribed 5mo ago
  You wouldn't know if we simulated you well enough.
- JimTheMan 5mo ago
  No worries. When you die, please let me know whether they are donated or not. :p