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> Second problem I see is that this took 37 days to resolve "Justice delayed is justice denied " is an important principle that appears to have been forgotten

by worik 5mo ago

> Second problem I see is that this took 37 days to resolve "Justice delayed is justice denied " is an important principle that appears to have been forgotten in the west

etothet 5mo ago
Not just the west. Posted a couple weeks back here on HN: https://sundaicity.com/blogs/getting-arrested-in-japan https://sundaicity.com/blogs/getting-arrested-in-japan https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48078647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48078647
- csa 5mo ago
  When people read these links, I encourage them to assume that the author/creator left out part of the story for convenience or due to lack of knowledge (specifically the language and customs around legal issues in Japan). Her story does not jibe with any of my experiences, direct or indirect, with law enforcement in Japan.
joe_mamba 5mo ago
>"Justice delayed is justice denied " is an important principle that appears to have been forgotten in the west It's also "the punishment is the process". It's often a feature, not a bug.
janalsncm 5mo ago
Rereading the article, another insane detail is the judge setting bond at $2M. I think for any person who actually was motivated to perpetrate a mass shooting, no bond would prevent it. And for most innocent people, $2M might as well be $200M. They’re sitting in jail until trial. I think there’s an amendment about that or something but I’m not a lawyer.
- nativeit 5mo ago
  I believe there are standing precedents about cash bail that state that it should not be used unless there’s a demonstrable risk the defendant will flee otherwise. The problem (one of them anyway) is that as a component of the process, it’s highly unlikely to be challenged to such an extent it makes it to the circuit courts where such precedents are made. Bonds should not be used, in and of themselves, as punishments, or as leverage for prosecution. If a person is a danger to themselves or others, they should be denied bail. If they are a clear flight risk, then the bond should be set accordingly to ensure compliance. If they are neither, they should be released on their own recognizance and afforded the right to fully participate in their own defense. Edit: also not a lawyer

by worik 5mo ago

> Second problem I see is that this took 37 days to resolve "Justice delayed is justice denied " is an important principle that appears to have been forgotten in the west

etothet 5mo ago

Not just the west. Posted a couple weeks back here on HN: https://sundaicity.com/blogs/getting-arrested-in-japan https://sundaicity.com/blogs/getting-arrested-in-japan https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48078647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48078647

csa 5mo ago
When people read these links, I encourage them to assume that the author/creator left out part of the story for convenience or due to lack of knowledge (specifically the language and customs around legal issues in Japan). Her story does not jibe with any of my experiences, direct or indirect, with law enforcement in Japan.

joe_mamba 5mo ago

>"Justice delayed is justice denied " is an important principle that appears to have been forgotten in the west It's also "the punishment is the process". It's often a feature, not a bug.

janalsncm 5mo ago

Rereading the article, another insane detail is the judge setting bond at $2M. I think for any person who actually was motivated to perpetrate a mass shooting, no bond would prevent it. And for most innocent people, $2M might as well be $200M. They’re sitting in jail until trial. I think there’s an amendment about that or something but I’m not a lawyer.

nativeit 5mo ago
I believe there are standing precedents about cash bail that state that it should not be used unless there’s a demonstrable risk the defendant will flee otherwise. The problem (one of them anyway) is that as a component of the process, it’s highly unlikely to be challenged to such an extent it makes it to the circuit courts where such precedents are made. Bonds should not be used, in and of themselves, as punishments, or as leverage for prosecution. If a person is a danger to themselves or others, they should be denied bail. If they are a clear flight risk, then the bond should be set accordingly to ensure compliance. If they are neither, they should be released on their own recognizance and afforded the right to fully participate in their own defense. Edit: also not a lawyer