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if you are serious about building a startup the best choice you could make is to learn to use these tools intelligently. ESPECIALLY if what you are building is

by pijon 5mo ago

if you are serious about building a startup the best choice you could make is to learn to use these tools intelligently. ESPECIALLY if what you are building is an app… virtually everyone building a startup uses these tools to automate a huge chunk of the work. you have no real chance otherwise. my advice is to get on the cheap claude code sub and to check out the superpowers plugin. the idea of the plugin is to help you create a “design” plan which promotoes to an “implementation” plan. the former is a high level architecture decisions which YOU TAKE and use the agent to browse different approaches that might work. the latter is the concrete steps the agent will take after you click execute. every file change documented, every migration required, etc. very easy to oversee it just my 2 cents (as someone working on startups)

ge96 5mo ago
least suspicious account lol
- pijon 5mo ago
  Not sure what you mean by this, I've had this account for years, just never commented.
sublinear 5mo ago
> virtually everyone building a startup uses these tools to automate a huge chunk of the work. you have no real chance otherwise. Huh? Do you mean people "building a startup" without any experience at all? The list of tasks in the comment you're replying to are well within the skillset of any software engineer that has that old job description classic "3 to 5 years experience". Not to be rude, but if the code is the hard part for anyone, they never had a chance at the rest of it either.
- pijon 5mo ago
  Where did I say that you didn't need to already have the skillset in order to build something with it? It's just a force multiplier. And learning to use these tools effectively is a skill of it's own. I'll never understand why folks on here look at this tech in such black and white. Of course it has no concept of logic or understanding. But if you do, you can bring out whatever is in your head out into code at 10x the speed. When building startups you need to move quickly because usually you have quite a bit of competition. If you think you can build a startup by being slow and thorough and take years to produce an MVP go for it :) i don't think you will succeed
  - sublinear 5mo ago
    > I'll never understand why folks on here [are so] black and white > ... slow and thorough Yes, we all know LLMs can't write code worth a shit unless the dev guiding it knows exactly what they need. You're the one insisting we don't type fast enough to keep up with competition. I am saying coding is not typing and problem solving is trivially easy if you already have experience solving those problems. Hence my original question. There's never been anything slow about writing code even long before LLMs. The slow part is figuring out what you need to do. LLMs don't help you there.

by pijon 5mo ago

ge96 5mo ago

least suspicious account lol

pijon 5mo ago
Not sure what you mean by this, I've had this account for years, just never commented.

sublinear 5mo ago

> virtually everyone building a startup uses these tools to automate a huge chunk of the work. you have no real chance otherwise. Huh? Do you mean people "building a startup" without any experience at all? The list of tasks in the comment you're replying to are well within the skillset of any software engineer that has that old job description classic "3 to 5 years experience". Not to be rude, but if the code is the hard part for anyone, they never had a chance at the rest of it either.

pijon 5mo ago
Where did I say that you didn't need to already have the skillset in order to build something with it? It's just a force multiplier. And learning to use these tools effectively is a skill of it's own. I'll never understand why folks on here look at this tech in such black and white. Of course it has no concept of logic or understanding. But if you do, you can bring out whatever is in your head out into code at 10x the speed. When building startups you need to move quickly because usually you have quite a bit of competition. If you think you can build a startup by being slow and thorough and take years to produce an MVP go for it :) i don't think you will succeed
- sublinear 5mo ago
  > I'll never understand why folks on here [are so] black and white > ... slow and thorough Yes, we all know LLMs can't write code worth a shit unless the dev guiding it knows exactly what they need. You're the one insisting we don't type fast enough to keep up with competition. I am saying coding is not typing and problem solving is trivially easy if you already have experience solving those problems. Hence my original question. There's never been anything slow about writing code even long before LLMs. The slow part is figuring out what you need to do. LLMs don't help you there.