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Railway don't have a great reputation for building scalable systems (effects of vibe coding?). It's worth waiting for Google's response before jumping to conclu

Railway don't have a great reputation for building scalable systems (effects of vibe coding?). It's worth waiting for Google's response before jumping to conclusions. They can move to Azure/AWS/own datacenter, but there's a good chance this will repeat in a few months.

Citizen_Lame 5mo ago
There is always one bootlicker, fresh 1 day account no less.
- lightedman 5mo ago
  Then let me be the not day-one account to say Railway is utterly bearing some responsibility here. "However, in this ring, there was still a hard dependency on workload discoverability being tied to the network control plane API that was hosted on the machines running in Google Cloud." They've gotta be joking me that they deliberately left something so critical under the control of any other entity than themselves. That demonstrates a lack of critical planning and a lack looking at their configuration from a first-principles approach.
  - Citizen_Lame 5mo ago
    There is always responsibility with Railway, that's given. But also taking into account how many big websites went down when AWS was down, building critical redundancy at such large scale is not cheap, and not many companies do it. Same as security theatre, we have redundancy theatre because they needed to sell the CLOUD.
- daninsea 5mo ago
  Been a passive reader here at HN for too long, finally registered today. Instead of viewing this incident objectively, you choose to insult me (?). I know multiple startup founders personally (2 of them are in the current YC batch), and the sheer callousness with which they look at infra, especially from security/scalability/reliability angle is shocking. I'll personally reserve judgement against GCP (replace with AWS/Azure/OCI/whatever) until we know more.
shwetanshu21 5mo ago
Sure, if this was one off isolated incident people would have agreed with you. But it's not. Even Google personal accounts have been used to ban their other ones including ones spending thousands of dollars on ads or GCP or any other paid google service, which is ridiculous.
anakaine 5mo ago
Their reputation is fine, and their uptake is due in part to their handling of scaling. If you're picking them instead of the underlying cloud provider, but you want all the knows and dials the underlying provider has, you've made the wrong choice.
linkregister 5mo ago
I understand this opinion, because their API keys / OAuth tokens had no permissions structure, so a user of the Railway MCP had their infrastructure destroyed by an overzealous LLM agent. However, this is orthogonal to their infrastructure capabilities.

Citizen_Lame 5mo ago

There is always one bootlicker, fresh 1 day account no less.

lightedman 5mo ago
Then let me be the not day-one account to say Railway is utterly bearing some responsibility here. "However, in this ring, there was still a hard dependency on workload discoverability being tied to the network control plane API that was hosted on the machines running in Google Cloud." They've gotta be joking me that they deliberately left something so critical under the control of any other entity than themselves. That demonstrates a lack of critical planning and a lack looking at their configuration from a first-principles approach.
- Citizen_Lame 5mo ago
  There is always responsibility with Railway, that's given. But also taking into account how many big websites went down when AWS was down, building critical redundancy at such large scale is not cheap, and not many companies do it. Same as security theatre, we have redundancy theatre because they needed to sell the CLOUD.
daninsea 5mo ago
Been a passive reader here at HN for too long, finally registered today. Instead of viewing this incident objectively, you choose to insult me (?). I know multiple startup founders personally (2 of them are in the current YC batch), and the sheer callousness with which they look at infra, especially from security/scalability/reliability angle is shocking. I'll personally reserve judgement against GCP (replace with AWS/Azure/OCI/whatever) until we know more.

shwetanshu21 5mo ago

Sure, if this was one off isolated incident people would have agreed with you. But it's not. Even Google personal accounts have been used to ban their other ones including ones spending thousands of dollars on ads or GCP or any other paid google service, which is ridiculous.

anakaine 5mo ago

Their reputation is fine, and their uptake is due in part to their handling of scaling. If you're picking them instead of the underlying cloud provider, but you want all the knows and dials the underlying provider has, you've made the wrong choice.

linkregister 5mo ago

I understand this opinion, because their API keys / OAuth tokens had no permissions structure, so a user of the Railway MCP had their infrastructure destroyed by an overzealous LLM agent. However, this is orthogonal to their infrastructure capabilities.