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The UK has different speech laws than the United States. Presumably, the actions of the police making those arrests are within the scope of UK law. Even if 90%
by Manuel_D 5mo ago
The UK has different speech laws than the United States. Presumably, the actions of the police making those arrests are within the scope of UK law. Even if 90% don't result in a conviction, the police may still be operating within the scope of their authority in those arrests.
- okeuro49 5mo ago[flagged]
- Manuel_D 5mo agoLinehan was arrested for making this post: > If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls This seems like a straightforward call to violence to me. And he was released after police ascertained that he had no intent to act on these statements. If someone made posts along the lines of "Christians are abusive, punch them" would it be surprising if CBP took them aside for further questioning?
- jvanderbot 5mo agoyes, actually, it would be suprising if CBP took them aside for further questioning. That's not really how it's "supposed" to work.
- Manuel_D 5mo agoEr, no, that's exactly how it's supposed to work: people who make violent threats have those threats more thoroughly assessed.
- jvanderbot 5mo agoAs a sign of how weakly I held that opinion I'll adopt yours. For the context of "incoming foreigner" your take seems correct
- owenmarshall 5mo agoCBP, maybe not - there’s a lot more leeway for things that happen at the border, for better or worse. But in general US law sets a high bar for claims of incitement. Your hypothetical statement would certainly be considered protected speech. That is, of course, not to say that you would not be a victim of vindictive prosecution ;)
- notahacker 5mo agoThe other context is also that Linehan was awaiting trial for harassment and criminal damage against a 17 year old transperson at the time. And that he ultimately didn't get charged for the tweets, and did get friends in high places to whinge at the police on his behalf
- hgappit 5mo ago[flagged]
- krige 5mo agoThe suggestion that the actions within UK happen everywhere in Europe is just as misleading.
- okeuro49 5mo agoI don't think so. This is an interview with the German authorities: https://youtu.be/-bMzFDpfDwc https://youtu.be/-bMzFDpfDwc
- soperj 5mo agoUK voted not to be a part of Europe. Well, at least the England part of the UK did.
- meta_gunslinger 5mo ago[flagged]
- Hikikomori 5mo agoSpeak for yourself. I'd rather them be outside Europe as well, Scotland, Wales and Ireland can stay though.
- meta_gunslinger 5mo agoYou are making a normative claim (what you want). Not a nominal one (what is). Completely irrelevant, the UK cannot be outside of Europe geographically because of your feelings.
- generic92034 5mo agoAt least you would need a sort of creative continental gerrymandering. ;)
- wizzwizz4 5mo agoNot with that kind of attitude! We have machines that can consume the Hambach Forest, and explosives powerful enough to crack landmasses. Sure, we might have to temporarily evacuate the populace near the border, so that they survive, but I'm sure we can evict England from Europe if we really put our minds to it.
- Hikikomori 5mo agoEasily done with a few bagger 288.