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I can't bring myself to use any model that trains or sends telemetry back to my country's primary competitor/adversary. I don't care how much money is saved.

Mashimo 5mo ago
That is understandable. Just don't do it. No need to announce it.
InsideOutSanta 5mo ago
As somebody in Europe, uh, that doesn't leave many options.
- avazhi 5mo ago
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  - deaux 5mo ago
    > as the rest of the world moves on without a single fuck given. Hilarious thing to say when half this comment section is Americans giving so much of a fuck that they consider China-adjacent hosted models unusable due to the supposed risks. If what you were saying was true then those pragmatic Americans would just use whatever is most effective.
    - avazhi 5mo ago
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- czottmann 5mo ago
  Look around for EU LLM routers. There are some, but none are as big as OpenRouter. Still, Cortecs (Austria) is quite good and offers a couple of recent models through its EU-based providers. Zero data retention, GDPR compliant, etc. Really nice. https://cortecs.ai/serverlessModels https://cortecs.ai/serverlessModels
throawayonthe 5mo ago
assuming that country is the united states, why not? seems like an honourable thing to do if anything, lol
mynameisbilly 5mo ago
Yeah, I prefer my data to be used and trained by the very trustworthy and benevolent tech oligarchs in my home country.
- deepfriedbits 5mo ago
  On some level, it's the lesser of two evils. Both do suck as options, I agree.
- plagiarist 5mo ago
  The Shanghai government surveillance drones are mobile, whereas the Flock government surveillance cameras are stationary! USA FTW, liberty and justice for all
  - HDBaseT 5mo ago
    Also on the front page "Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit" and "The FBI Wants to Buy Nationwide Access to License Plate Readers" Gotta love how the US is the bastion of free speech, justice and liberty!

Mashimo 5mo ago

That is understandable. Just don't do it. No need to announce it.

InsideOutSanta 5mo ago

As somebody in Europe, uh, that doesn't leave many options.

avazhi 5mo ago
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- deaux 5mo ago
  > as the rest of the world moves on without a single fuck given. Hilarious thing to say when half this comment section is Americans giving so much of a fuck that they consider China-adjacent hosted models unusable due to the supposed risks. If what you were saying was true then those pragmatic Americans would just use whatever is most effective.
  - avazhi 5mo ago
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czottmann 5mo ago
Look around for EU LLM routers. There are some, but none are as big as OpenRouter. Still, Cortecs (Austria) is quite good and offers a couple of recent models through its EU-based providers. Zero data retention, GDPR compliant, etc. Really nice. https://cortecs.ai/serverlessModels https://cortecs.ai/serverlessModels

throawayonthe 5mo ago

assuming that country is the united states, why not? seems like an honourable thing to do if anything, lol

mynameisbilly 5mo ago

Yeah, I prefer my data to be used and trained by the very trustworthy and benevolent tech oligarchs in my home country.

deepfriedbits 5mo ago
On some level, it's the lesser of two evils. Both do suck as options, I agree.
plagiarist 5mo ago
The Shanghai government surveillance drones are mobile, whereas the Flock government surveillance cameras are stationary! USA FTW, liberty and justice for all
- HDBaseT 5mo ago
  Also on the front page "Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit" and "The FBI Wants to Buy Nationwide Access to License Plate Readers" Gotta love how the US is the bastion of free speech, justice and liberty!