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Every one of these posts about boos at commencement speeches has one of these comments near the bottom. I feel like I’m failing some pop culture quiz. What does

by tyleo 5mo ago

Every one of these posts about boos at commencement speeches has one of these comments near the bottom. I feel like I’m failing some pop culture quiz. What does this mean?

bananaflag 5mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Are_Alright_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Are_Alright_(song)
- jackdoe 5mo ago
  in contrast with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_Alright https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_Alright
  - bix6 5mo ago
    When we were young the future was so bright woahohh The old neighborhood was so alive woahohh
    - larodi 5mo ago
      "When you were young, the light shined so bright. Shine on, you crazy diamond" a song from the same bygone time, we'll romanticizing about, we've not really even started romanticizing about yet.
      - derwiki 5mo ago
        IIRC that was very specifically about Syd Barrett, the first Pink Floyd frontman, who took* too much acid and “retired early.” * it is super lame that people dosed him without his consent
        larodi 5mo ago
        Indeed, and while they did the recording for Dark Side of the Moon he miraculously, almost creepily appeared in the studio. They did not recognize him - bald head and all. I did not know Sid got dozed without consent, but this is not something to do to people. There was knew a girl who was doing it and eventually everyone figured out and started avoiding her like plague.
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ahoy 5mo ago
AI is largely unpopular outside of the tech & business worlds. Most laypeople see it as falling on a spectrum between unwanted and annoying (google getting worse, AI chatbots proliferating in every app and site) to actively harmful (jobs being replaced by ai). The fact that comments agreeing with this sentiment get downvoted here isn't a huge surprise, hn is firmly inside the tech/business world.
- jknoepfler 5mo ago
  Most people will experience it as sludge, if they experience it at all. Countries that do not aggressively regulate AI out will see our already profoundly eroded customer service ecosystem disintegrate completely. The already opaque and awful systems that determine things like access to credit or access to healthcare will become even more opaque and inscrutable and produce measurably worse outcomes for actual humans. This is kinda obvious to most people, who are already experiencing an enormous amount of sludge in their daily life. Tech-bro optimism in the face of GenAI is so painfully decoupled from lived reality it's frightening. Tech has not made the world a better place for most people over the last fifteen years, and it is poised to make things much, much worse.
- inanutshellus 5mo ago
  What's this have to do with the thread you replied to? And... anyway... Google just changed its homepage to make "AI Mode" / LLM responses the norm. LLM usage is just going to be the norm for the foreseeable future. Doesn't matter if a wary set of "laypeople" are reticent. They're still going to ask Google questions and be affected by it in their digital lives.
- ImPostingOnHN 5mo ago
  For what it's worth, you're probably downvoted way more for the whole "woe is me, I'm always downvoted for being right by people who are wrong" false martyrdom routine. Maybe leave that part off your post next time: it only detracts from the rest of it. You might also refrain from generalizations like "hn is firmly inside the tech/business world". HN is not a single person, there are a variety of people here with a variety of experiences and opinions and biases.
jfyi 5mo ago
It's a song by "The Who". Though given the controversy their lead songwriter (Pete Townshend) has been through, I personally would refrain from quoting him on the topic of kids.
aaron695 5mo ago
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JKCalhoun 5mo ago
As others point out, a song by the band, "The Who". But it's since come to be a phrase to suggest that the upcoming generation (the kids) are going to be okay. As opposed to the more common refrain of "the kids these days…" (and then append some generational gripe like, "are just weed-smoking, lazy, game-playing, phone-staring, TikTok-headed, etc…"
- dylan604 5mo ago
  Other than the TikTok-headed part, the phrase could easily be applied to at least as far back as the 80s (NES) depending on definition of game-playing. Before then, there was foosball and pinball. Nevermind the kids that play card/board games. Also, while not staring at a phone implying smart phone use, it was often said about teens having a phone growing out of the shoulder from them constantly being on the phone with friends. So, yeah, kids these days...are just like the generations of kids before them.
  - chadgpt3 5mo ago
    Which is a good thing.
  - mghackerlady 5mo ago
    And what is tiktok if not MTV on steroids
    - dylan604 5mo ago
      It's personalized and made by peers vs professional Hollywood productions. Of course, I'm thinking about original MTV and not whatever it evolved into with reality crap programming.
      - mghackerlady 5mo ago
        Right, but it still has the same kind of energy as MTV. Music, counterculture (to en extent), and crude humour. It got to the point where when Beavis and Buthead got a reboot, they reacted to tiktoks

by tyleo 5mo ago

Every one of these posts about boos at commencement speeches has one of these comments near the bottom. I feel like I’m failing some pop culture quiz. What does this mean?

bananaflag 5mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Are_Alright_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Are_Alright_(song)

jackdoe 5mo ago
in contrast with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_Alright https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_Alright
- bix6 5mo ago
  When we were young the future was so bright woahohh The old neighborhood was so alive woahohh
  - larodi 5mo ago
    "When you were young, the light shined so bright. Shine on, you crazy diamond" a song from the same bygone time, we'll romanticizing about, we've not really even started romanticizing about yet.
    - derwiki 5mo ago
      IIRC that was very specifically about Syd Barrett, the first Pink Floyd frontman, who took* too much acid and “retired early.” * it is super lame that people dosed him without his consent
      - larodi 5mo ago
        Indeed, and while they did the recording for Dark Side of the Moon he miraculously, almost creepily appeared in the studio. They did not recognize him - bald head and all. I did not know Sid got dozed without consent, but this is not something to do to people. There was knew a girl who was doing it and eventually everyone figured out and started avoiding her like plague.

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ahoy 5mo ago

AI is largely unpopular outside of the tech & business worlds. Most laypeople see it as falling on a spectrum between unwanted and annoying (google getting worse, AI chatbots proliferating in every app and site) to actively harmful (jobs being replaced by ai). The fact that comments agreeing with this sentiment get downvoted here isn't a huge surprise, hn is firmly inside the tech/business world.

jknoepfler 5mo ago
Most people will experience it as sludge, if they experience it at all. Countries that do not aggressively regulate AI out will see our already profoundly eroded customer service ecosystem disintegrate completely. The already opaque and awful systems that determine things like access to credit or access to healthcare will become even more opaque and inscrutable and produce measurably worse outcomes for actual humans. This is kinda obvious to most people, who are already experiencing an enormous amount of sludge in their daily life. Tech-bro optimism in the face of GenAI is so painfully decoupled from lived reality it's frightening. Tech has not made the world a better place for most people over the last fifteen years, and it is poised to make things much, much worse.
inanutshellus 5mo ago
What's this have to do with the thread you replied to? And... anyway... Google just changed its homepage to make "AI Mode" / LLM responses the norm. LLM usage is just going to be the norm for the foreseeable future. Doesn't matter if a wary set of "laypeople" are reticent. They're still going to ask Google questions and be affected by it in their digital lives.
ImPostingOnHN 5mo ago
For what it's worth, you're probably downvoted way more for the whole "woe is me, I'm always downvoted for being right by people who are wrong" false martyrdom routine. Maybe leave that part off your post next time: it only detracts from the rest of it. You might also refrain from generalizations like "hn is firmly inside the tech/business world". HN is not a single person, there are a variety of people here with a variety of experiences and opinions and biases.

jfyi 5mo ago

It's a song by "The Who". Though given the controversy their lead songwriter (Pete Townshend) has been through, I personally would refrain from quoting him on the topic of kids.

aaron695 5mo ago

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JKCalhoun 5mo ago

As others point out, a song by the band, "The Who". But it's since come to be a phrase to suggest that the upcoming generation (the kids) are going to be okay. As opposed to the more common refrain of "the kids these days…" (and then append some generational gripe like, "are just weed-smoking, lazy, game-playing, phone-staring, TikTok-headed, etc…"

dylan604 5mo ago
Other than the TikTok-headed part, the phrase could easily be applied to at least as far back as the 80s (NES) depending on definition of game-playing. Before then, there was foosball and pinball. Nevermind the kids that play card/board games. Also, while not staring at a phone implying smart phone use, it was often said about teens having a phone growing out of the shoulder from them constantly being on the phone with friends. So, yeah, kids these days...are just like the generations of kids before them.
- chadgpt3 5mo ago
  Which is a good thing.
- mghackerlady 5mo ago
  And what is tiktok if not MTV on steroids
  - dylan604 5mo ago
    It's personalized and made by peers vs professional Hollywood productions. Of course, I'm thinking about original MTV and not whatever it evolved into with reality crap programming.
    - mghackerlady 5mo ago
      Right, but it still has the same kind of energy as MTV. Music, counterculture (to en extent), and crude humour. It got to the point where when Beavis and Buthead got a reboot, they reacted to tiktoks