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Because nuclear energy is only popular in certain circles. No, nuclear waste is not a solved issue. Given Russia was very happily attacking Zaporizhzhia they ar

Because nuclear energy is only popular in certain circles. No, nuclear waste is not a solved issue. Given Russia was very happily attacking Zaporizhzhia they aren't as safe as you might want to believe. Especially Germany has issues with it due to having stored tons of nuclear waste in old salt mines in barrels that start to leak. Fuck nuclear power.

gambiting 5mo ago
>>Especially Germany has issues with it due to having stored tons of nuclear waste in old salt mines in barrels that start to leak. Isn't highly radioactive waste vitrified(turned into glass)? How is it leaking, exactly? And isn't the entire point of storing it inside salt that it's self sealing - even if there is a leak it won't go anywhere.
- sevenzero 5mo ago
  Leakage due to water infiltration. Its about 120.000 barrels stored in "Asse II" that were produced between 1967 and 1978. The contaminated water is reaching ground water which already got positively tested for caesium-137 and plutonium.
  - Gud 5mo ago
    Nobody is arguing we should store nuclear waste haphazardly in barrels.
    - cess11 5mo ago
      Right, nobody is arguing for the negative consequences we've had from nuclear reactors, except perhaps atom bombs, but they happened anyway. I know of exactly zero leading politicians that I'd entrust with nuclear waste. Can you name some that you find trustworthy enough?
      - gambiting 5mo ago
        >>I know of exactly zero leading politicians that I'd entrust with nuclear waste I know zero politicians I'd trust with deciding where to build wind farms either, it says more about politicians than the type of energy generation. These kinds of things should be decided following comprehensive research on several locations, which you know - is generally how it's done, example given by OP notwithstanding.
  - cess11 5mo ago
    2008: https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/2008-09-20-year-long-german-nuclear-leak-scandal-engulfs-country-and-disturbs-europe https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/2008-09-20-year-long... 2024: https://www.neimagazine.com/decommissioning-waste-management/water-leaks-reported-at-germanys-asse-ii-radwaste-facility/ https://www.neimagazine.com/decommissioning-waste-management... 2026: https://interestingengineering.com/ai-robotics/robotic-arms-nuclear-waste-salt-mine-germany https://interestingengineering.com/ai-robotics/robotic-arms-... Here's a timeline as PDF: https://www.folkkampanjen.se/pdf_asse.pdf https://www.folkkampanjen.se/pdf_asse.pdf Pricing in these things into nuclear energy production makes it quite unpalatable compared to simpler engineering, in my opinion. Who knows what will come of chinese fusion research, perhaps they'll figure it out and change my mind. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260101160855.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260101160855.h...
- Mashimo 5mo ago
  German scientist had a list with possible locations for the "endlager" final location. But politicians did not listen and on purpose chose a location not on the list, but one that was close too east Germany to mess with them. They overruled the scientist. Until we clean it up and find a new endlager I think Germany should not build new nuclear reactor. Just not a good track record. Oh and before that we just dumped it into the north see.
Manuel_D 5mo ago
Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. The fact that Zaporizhia was on the front lines of one of the biggest armed conflicts in recent memory and saw no compromised reactors is testament to their resilience is it not?
- sevenzero 5mo ago
  Its not a solved issue. The plant still is in a state of emergency. It just shows that these plants are easy targets.
- Mashimo 5mo ago
  > Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. But Germany did not do it. They on purpose put it in a salt mine close to the east Germany border and now we have to dig it up again, because ground water is seeping in. A few weeks ago there were rumors that it's not possible to dig it up and we might have to flood it. It's such a cluster fuck. Finland did it well though.
- simoncion 5mo ago
  > ...and saw no compromised reactors is testament to their resilience is it not? It is, yes. As was the performance of the Fukushima [0] reactors after getting hit with seismic forces notably outside their design tolerances... and -well- pretty much every commercially-operated fission power plant ever, other than the known-to-be-very-dangerous-to-everyone-even-at-the-time one the Soviets were running at Chernobyl. [0] Consider that the destruction of the power plant caused maybe one death years later and definitely caused a couple dozen injuries, whereas the earthquake and tsunami that destroyed that plant killed tens of thousands of people and injured many thousands more.
- fileeditview 5mo ago
  > Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. It's literally sweeping something under the carpet.. At some point in time there will be a quake strong enough to crack your bedrock or some other natural disaster strong enough to change the status quo. Then you have the disaster. Probably it's not in your lifetime or in your area so you don't have to care about it. It baffles me again and again how people can just dismiss these things. I am not even categorically against nuclear power, but ignoring the actual risks is just BAD.

gambiting 5mo ago

>>Especially Germany has issues with it due to having stored tons of nuclear waste in old salt mines in barrels that start to leak. Isn't highly radioactive waste vitrified(turned into glass)? How is it leaking, exactly? And isn't the entire point of storing it inside salt that it's self sealing - even if there is a leak it won't go anywhere.

sevenzero 5mo ago
Leakage due to water infiltration. Its about 120.000 barrels stored in "Asse II" that were produced between 1967 and 1978. The contaminated water is reaching ground water which already got positively tested for caesium-137 and plutonium.
- Gud 5mo ago
  Nobody is arguing we should store nuclear waste haphazardly in barrels.
  - cess11 5mo ago
    Right, nobody is arguing for the negative consequences we've had from nuclear reactors, except perhaps atom bombs, but they happened anyway. I know of exactly zero leading politicians that I'd entrust with nuclear waste. Can you name some that you find trustworthy enough?
    - gambiting 5mo ago
      >>I know of exactly zero leading politicians that I'd entrust with nuclear waste I know zero politicians I'd trust with deciding where to build wind farms either, it says more about politicians than the type of energy generation. These kinds of things should be decided following comprehensive research on several locations, which you know - is generally how it's done, example given by OP notwithstanding.
- cess11 5mo ago
  2008: https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/2008-09-20-year-long-german-nuclear-leak-scandal-engulfs-country-and-disturbs-europe https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/2008-09-20-year-long... 2024: https://www.neimagazine.com/decommissioning-waste-management/water-leaks-reported-at-germanys-asse-ii-radwaste-facility/ https://www.neimagazine.com/decommissioning-waste-management... 2026: https://interestingengineering.com/ai-robotics/robotic-arms-nuclear-waste-salt-mine-germany https://interestingengineering.com/ai-robotics/robotic-arms-... Here's a timeline as PDF: https://www.folkkampanjen.se/pdf_asse.pdf https://www.folkkampanjen.se/pdf_asse.pdf Pricing in these things into nuclear energy production makes it quite unpalatable compared to simpler engineering, in my opinion. Who knows what will come of chinese fusion research, perhaps they'll figure it out and change my mind. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260101160855.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260101160855.h...
Mashimo 5mo ago
German scientist had a list with possible locations for the "endlager" final location. But politicians did not listen and on purpose chose a location not on the list, but one that was close too east Germany to mess with them. They overruled the scientist. Until we clean it up and find a new endlager I think Germany should not build new nuclear reactor. Just not a good track record. Oh and before that we just dumped it into the north see.

Manuel_D 5mo ago

Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. The fact that Zaporizhia was on the front lines of one of the biggest armed conflicts in recent memory and saw no compromised reactors is testament to their resilience is it not?

sevenzero 5mo ago
Its not a solved issue. The plant still is in a state of emergency. It just shows that these plants are easy targets.
Mashimo 5mo ago
> Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. But Germany did not do it. They on purpose put it in a salt mine close to the east Germany border and now we have to dig it up again, because ground water is seeping in. A few weeks ago there were rumors that it's not possible to dig it up and we might have to flood it. It's such a cluster fuck. Finland did it well though.
simoncion 5mo ago
> ...and saw no compromised reactors is testament to their resilience is it not? It is, yes. As was the performance of the Fukushima [0] reactors after getting hit with seismic forces notably outside their design tolerances... and -well- pretty much every commercially-operated fission power plant ever, other than the known-to-be-very-dangerous-to-everyone-even-at-the-time one the Soviets were running at Chernobyl. [0] Consider that the destruction of the power plant caused maybe one death years later and definitely caused a couple dozen injuries, whereas the earthquake and tsunami that destroyed that plant killed tens of thousands of people and injured many thousands more.
fileeditview 5mo ago
> Nuclear waste is solved by burying it in bedrock in a location with no groundwater. It's literally sweeping something under the carpet.. At some point in time there will be a quake strong enough to crack your bedrock or some other natural disaster strong enough to change the status quo. Then you have the disaster. Probably it's not in your lifetime or in your area so you don't have to care about it. It baffles me again and again how people can just dismiss these things. I am not even categorically against nuclear power, but ignoring the actual risks is just BAD.