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There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are

by ipaddr 5mo ago

There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are blindly using links without reading them or using critical thinking.

_DeadFred_ 5mo ago
The regime says "the total number of fatalities was 3,117". They then state "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." That leaves quite a few civilians murdered by the Iranian regime. 2,517. Murdered. Non-CIA. Non-rioters. Non-terrorists. Civilians. Murdered. By their own government. Here are the faces a few of the 2,517 the regime admits they murdered: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... here are the names of a few of the children that were murdered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... I do not claim either are exhaustive lists, they are simply a few of the many victims (2,517 according to the Iranian regimes official position). We haven't even talked about the 42,486 total arrests the regime made (which could not possibly all be CIA). 42,486 total arrests feels very secret police/repressive like the SAVAK of the 1950s. Your responses again and again aimed at me such as "using critical thinking." are in pretty severe violation of the HN guidelines. It's best to speak to what is being said, not to make malicious statements/judgements at those you disagree with.
- ipaddr 5mo ago
  Remember this link you gave: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... That's where we find the 146 out of 6,000. If you don't agree with those numbers you shouldn't be using that link to state the case that many families were killed. Now you start including random stats.. did you know there were 6 times more people arrested. BBC says x.. trying to change the goalposts by not even mentioning families killed which was the entire discussion. You got fooled by AI so did the media. Great writeup how they did it. No amount of changing goalposts will change that fact. How many fewer mother's day cards were sent or how many potholes Iran has now isn't going to change you got fooled by AI. We were see more of this in the future as AI bots will double down like you did when presented with facts.
  - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
    From the same link: "A total of 11,280 cases remain under review.". Again, these numbers are not exhaustive, the numbers from the regime are the 100% verified numbers from the regime so that we don't get lost in 'but we can't trust the news/the human rights orgs/it's all AI/you were tricked'. That the government definitively murdered over 100 children (with the final total potentially being more) is shocking and confirmed by Iran. Your joke that only over a 100 families won't receive mothers day cards seems really poor taste and proves your statement it was only CIA agents with machine guns false. 100 families without children because the government murdered them in a very short timeframe is horrific. You keep ignoring 2,517 civilians murdered. For a fact according to the Iranian regime murdered. 2,517 confirmed civilians according to Iran. Not confirmed by AI. Confirmed by the Iranian government. I did not try to change the goal posts at all. I simply highlighted we are talking about a small subset when we talk about the confirmed information. And the fact (according to the Iranian regime) is it was not just men with guns gunned down but at a minimum, according to the Iranian regime itself, 2,517 civilians murdered. This subset gallery contains "“children of this soil” of Iran, according to Iranian officials, that the Iranian government (not AI) listed as having murdered. https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... You seem to want to debate away the official government murder toll and use AI as some sort of shield. I conceded to you that for further discussion we will limits totals to Iranian regime confirmed numbers so as to remove any doubt, question, prevent the THOUSANDS of definitively proven lives taken get lost in a pointless she said she said 'it's AI' and simply use the official state totals.

by ipaddr 5mo ago

_DeadFred_ 5mo ago

The regime says "the total number of fatalities was 3,117". They then state "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." That leaves quite a few civilians murdered by the Iranian regime. 2,517. Murdered. Non-CIA. Non-rioters. Non-terrorists. Civilians. Murdered. By their own government. Here are the faces a few of the 2,517 the regime admits they murdered: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... here are the names of a few of the children that were murdered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... I do not claim either are exhaustive lists, they are simply a few of the many victims (2,517 according to the Iranian regimes official position). We haven't even talked about the 42,486 total arrests the regime made (which could not possibly all be CIA). 42,486 total arrests feels very secret police/repressive like the SAVAK of the 1950s. Your responses again and again aimed at me such as "using critical thinking." are in pretty severe violation of the HN guidelines. It's best to speak to what is being said, not to make malicious statements/judgements at those you disagree with.

ipaddr 5mo ago
Remember this link you gave: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... That's where we find the 146 out of 6,000. If you don't agree with those numbers you shouldn't be using that link to state the case that many families were killed. Now you start including random stats.. did you know there were 6 times more people arrested. BBC says x.. trying to change the goalposts by not even mentioning families killed which was the entire discussion. You got fooled by AI so did the media. Great writeup how they did it. No amount of changing goalposts will change that fact. How many fewer mother's day cards were sent or how many potholes Iran has now isn't going to change you got fooled by AI. We were see more of this in the future as AI bots will double down like you did when presented with facts.
- _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
  From the same link: "A total of 11,280 cases remain under review.". Again, these numbers are not exhaustive, the numbers from the regime are the 100% verified numbers from the regime so that we don't get lost in 'but we can't trust the news/the human rights orgs/it's all AI/you were tricked'. That the government definitively murdered over 100 children (with the final total potentially being more) is shocking and confirmed by Iran. Your joke that only over a 100 families won't receive mothers day cards seems really poor taste and proves your statement it was only CIA agents with machine guns false. 100 families without children because the government murdered them in a very short timeframe is horrific. You keep ignoring 2,517 civilians murdered. For a fact according to the Iranian regime murdered. 2,517 confirmed civilians according to Iran. Not confirmed by AI. Confirmed by the Iranian government. I did not try to change the goal posts at all. I simply highlighted we are talking about a small subset when we talk about the confirmed information. And the fact (according to the Iranian regime) is it was not just men with guns gunned down but at a minimum, according to the Iranian regime itself, 2,517 civilians murdered. This subset gallery contains "“children of this soil” of Iran, according to Iranian officials, that the Iranian government (not AI) listed as having murdered. https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... You seem to want to debate away the official government murder toll and use AI as some sort of shield. I conceded to you that for further discussion we will limits totals to Iranian regime confirmed numbers so as to remove any doubt, question, prevent the THOUSANDS of definitively proven lives taken get lost in a pointless she said she said 'it's AI' and simply use the official state totals.