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So 999 people that are just making an image need to be DRM'ed so that you might catch the 1 person making "realistic but deceptive" images... like this is some

So 999 people that are just making an image need to be DRM'ed so that you might catch the 1 person making "realistic but deceptive" images... like this is some kind of special case of ... internet images.

space_fountain 5mo ago
This isn't DRM right? This is metadata attached to the image that makes it clear it was synthetically generated. The public has a huge incentive to know when images are AI generated and the harm to legitimate users seems pretty small: aka someone might complain online that you use AI
- WhatIsDukkha 5mo ago
  billions? of "fake" images not generated by ai but just photoshopped and ... not really harmful. There is no case that any of its particularly harmful outside of things like CSAM which is illegal.
  - hhh 5mo ago
    Have you looked at twitter or Facebook and seen the swaths of our population that are just fully believing fake AI slop about politics, crime, etc?
    - the_other 5mo ago
      Most of those people wont be checking the provenance of the images. FB have stopped from their fact-checking processes. Only the investigative or journalistically inclined will make use of this, and those people already fact check. Where’s the en mass gain?
      - spuz 5mo ago
        There's a world where all the big platforms automatically flag AI images thanks to SnythID and other techniques. The more ubiquitous it is the easier it will be for them to make that a reality.
- raron 5mo ago
  Not yet, but it is easy to imagine many ways it would be used for DRM.
  - throawayonthe 5mo ago
    is it though?
mschuster91 5mo ago
> So 999 people that are just making an image need to be DRM'ed so that you might catch the 1 person making "realistic but deceptive" images Unfortunately, simple statistics mean that you will get a lot more people than just "1" creating disinformation with AI assistance.
deltoidmaximus 5mo ago
And given that governments, large corporations and well funded bad actors will be able to generate non-water marked images this will legitimize AI generated propaganda and scam images as truth. I wouldn't be surprised if a forensic junk science grew up around it to further legitimize it as well.

space_fountain 5mo ago

This isn't DRM right? This is metadata attached to the image that makes it clear it was synthetically generated. The public has a huge incentive to know when images are AI generated and the harm to legitimate users seems pretty small: aka someone might complain online that you use AI

WhatIsDukkha 5mo ago
billions? of "fake" images not generated by ai but just photoshopped and ... not really harmful. There is no case that any of its particularly harmful outside of things like CSAM which is illegal.
- hhh 5mo ago
  Have you looked at twitter or Facebook and seen the swaths of our population that are just fully believing fake AI slop about politics, crime, etc?
  - the_other 5mo ago
    Most of those people wont be checking the provenance of the images. FB have stopped from their fact-checking processes. Only the investigative or journalistically inclined will make use of this, and those people already fact check. Where’s the en mass gain?
    - spuz 5mo ago
      There's a world where all the big platforms automatically flag AI images thanks to SnythID and other techniques. The more ubiquitous it is the easier it will be for them to make that a reality.
raron 5mo ago
Not yet, but it is easy to imagine many ways it would be used for DRM.
- throawayonthe 5mo ago
  is it though?

mschuster91 5mo ago

> So 999 people that are just making an image need to be DRM'ed so that you might catch the 1 person making "realistic but deceptive" images Unfortunately, simple statistics mean that you will get a lot more people than just "1" creating disinformation with AI assistance.

deltoidmaximus 5mo ago

And given that governments, large corporations and well funded bad actors will be able to generate non-water marked images this will legitimize AI generated propaganda and scam images as truth. I wouldn't be surprised if a forensic junk science grew up around it to further legitimize it as well.